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Old 05-14-2006, 09:31 PM   #1
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Default What passages support an "omnimax" God?

I keep seeing that the biblical God has to be omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent. Where in the Bible are the three qualities claimed?
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I'll bet there are as many places that say he isn't as there are that say he is.

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I keep seeing that the biblical God has to be omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent. Where in the Bible are the three qualities claimed?
Omniscient:
Psalm 139:1-4
1 O Yahweh, you have searched me and known me. 2 You know when I sit down and when I rise up; you discern my thoughts from far away. 3 You search out my path and my lying down, and are acquainted with all my ways. 4 Even before a word is on my tongue, O Yahweh, you know it completely.

Isaiah 42:8-9
8 I am Yahweh, that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to idols. 9 See, the former things have come to pass, and new things I now declare; before they spring forth, I tell you of them.

Genesis 15:13-14
13 Then Yahweh said to Abram, "Know this for certain, that your offspring shall be aliens in a land that is not theirs, and shall be slaves there, and they shall be oppressed for four hundred years; 14 but I will bring judgment on the nation that they serve, and afterward they shall come out with great possessions.

Daniel 11:1-39 which correctly "predicts" the "future."

Omnipresent:
Psalm 139:7-10
7 Where can I go from your spirit? Or where can I flee from your presence?
8 If I ascend to heaven, you are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, you are here. 9 If I take the wings of the morning and settle at the farthest limits of the sea, 10 even there your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me fast.

Jeremiah 23:23-24
23 Am I a God near by, says Yahweh, and not a God far off? 24 Who can hide in secret places so that I cannot see them? says Yahweh. Do I not fill heaven and earth? says Yahweh.

Omnipotent:
Jeremiah 32:17,27
17 Ah Lord God! It is you who made the heavens and the earth by your great power and by your outstretched arm! Nothing is too hard for you.

27 See, I am Yahweh, the God of all flesh; is anything too hard for me?

Psalm 121:4
4 He who keeps Israel will neither slumber nor sleep.

Isaiah 40:28
28 Have you not known? Have you not heard? Yahweh is the everlasting God,
the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary...

Genesis 18:14a
14 Is anything too wonderful for Yahweh?

Omnibenevolent:
1 John 4:8, 16

God is love.


Needless to say, but yes, there are verses which indicate that God does not possess these attributes. Be advised that Christians have a bevy of ad hoc rationalizations for the discrepancies--God used the "language of accommodation," God feigned ignorance, etc. so don't expect to get any concessions if you point out contradictory passages.
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Omniscent:
He knows when you've been sleeping.
He knows when you're awake.
He knows if you've been bad or good.
Omnibenevolent:
So be good for goodness sake.

Oh, sorry, wrong text.
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Omniscent:
He knows when you've been sleeping.
He knows when you're awake.
He knows if you've been bad or good.
Omnibenevolent:
So be good for goodness sake.

Oh, sorry, wrong text.
See this thread, The Santa Claus Analogy

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I keep seeing that the biblical God has to be omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent. Where in the Bible are the three qualities claimed?
This concept, while not explicitly stated in the Bible, was a major part of Christian doctrine and commonly stated among early Christian theologeans from the 1st century through the 4th century, and hence became Christian doctrine.

The concept comes from the platonic school of Greek philosohy, which held that god was omnipotent, omniscient. The Christians added that god also was omnibenevolent.
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