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Toto · 07-26-2011, 04:36 PM

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Southern Baptists have asked their denomination-owned retail chain to stop selling a best-selling Bible translation, saying it contains errors when it comes to language about gender.

Church delegates—known as messengers—passed a resolution at their June annual meeting in Phoenix criticizing the 2011 update to the New International Version (NIV) as an "inaccurate translation of God's inspired Scripture." They asked LifeWay Christian Resources not to sell the NIV 2011, which avoids using male terms in passages where context suggests that both genders are intended, except where the pronoun in question has messianic allusions

Breivik and the Bible

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Originally Posted by Breivik

Our illiterate, lazy culture has spilled over to many professing Christians who have embraced the ways of the pacifist egalitarian. They are willing to read a modified, pacifist, gender neutral Bible, missing what God says so that they can continue to ignore their duties in regards to the ongoing Crusade (self defence). Our modern Bible perversion was written by men using dynamic equivalence. In other words, they are telling you their interpretation and their doctrine, NOT what the manuscripts really say. This can be confirmed by reviewing how the modern Church is using pacifist, fanatically egalitarian and gender inclusive language. Fanatical egalitarianism, gender inclusivity and pacifism wasn’t in the original texts, in the original Bible. it is a modern, feminist and cultural relativist concept born from the Marxist revolution (p. 1119).

Although, to be fair, Breivik does disagree with the Baptists on sola scriptura:

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The Protestant doctrine of Sola Scriptura leads to an “incipient subjectivism” since without Tradition, each man becomes his own authority and interpreter of Scripture. This has resulted in competing interpretations in the Protestant marketplace resulting in various directions of Protestantism.

Authority and Authoritativeness:

Authority, in all of our daily experiences, means a person or institution empowered to enforce a rule. Sola scriptura is in a sense a philosophical sleight of hand. A book by its nature can only be authoritative, not an authority. Ironically, it was the first pope, the apostle Peter, who pointed out the rather obvious fact that Scripture is not necessarily self-explanatory; it can be twisted by the unscrupulous to support any theological position (2 Peter 3:16).

GakuseiDon · 07-26-2011, 05:13 PM

Do you agree with Breivik about the Bible, Toto?

stephan huller · 07-26-2011, 05:50 PM

Did that guy participate in this forum?

Toto · 07-26-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GakuseiDon

Do you agree with Breivik about the Bible, Toto?

No, I don't.

But it does seem clear that Breivik has been mislabeled as a fundamentalist. He does not seem to worship the Bible or take it as literal truth. He only objects to liberal pacifists interpreting it in a way that does not allow for manliness and hatred of Muslims.

aeebee50 · 07-26-2011, 07:47 PM

News to me.

hjalti · 07-26-2011, 08:43 PM

What about this Toto:

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His [Freud's] interpretation of God was based on the Bible being written by man, not as we know, dictated by God.

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