SteveB

Something I just stumbled across, and I thought a few might be interested in.
The University of Missouri- Kansas City, Law School has a list of all of the famous trials in history-- that have a record.

One of the trials listed, is the trial of Jesus.
Based on what I could ascertain the university uses historical trials as part of its teaching curriculum.

UMKC- Famous Trials

The direct link to Jesus' trial is:

Jesus' Trial

There are legal documents from the Annals of Tacitus, of course Josephus, and some other documents to support a real person, who became something more than anyone could've imagined.

For the curious, the Trial of Socrates is on there too. The most recent trial listed is that of Moussaoui for 9/11 in 2006.

Enjoy.

Malintent

In other words, it is a dramatization based loosely on events the writers did not witness. Or, in short, Fiction.

JEST2ASK

Something has always puzzled me about claim that the Jewish leaders used Pilate to kill a man they had no power to condemn to death.

According to the Bible a few days later after the events of pentacost Stephen was stoned, supposedly Saul of Tarsus was one of those present.
This individual was later given the authority to travel with warrents (?) to persucute Jewish heretics either having them imprisioned or put to death.

Many things about the whole trial sequence just do not seem realistic to me.
:huh:

Toto

This is just a rehash of material on what is known about trials in the first century. It has nothing new or interesting to say about the trial of Jesus, which probably didn't happen, and was probably a literary creation (even a literary creation can be of interest.)

But the trial of Jesus has no particular relation to the existence of god(s). This is what the author of the webpage has to say about god(s):

Ecclesiastes is the favorite book of atheists.

doubt

Objection! Hearsay!

SteveB

seems to me the easiest way to find out would be to contact the law school, and ask them the validity of the testimony provided.

Here's the link to the contact page-- email, and phone number.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...ialsforum.html

Toto

What "testimony?" The professor who put that web page together used some very standard sources. But he is not an authority on their underlying validity.

Or were you under the impression that the site contained a trial transcript??

SteveB

So, I'm guessing you've never heard of suicide by cop, political will to crush an opponent, basic jealousy, etc....

The jewish law gave clear instructions on putting to death anyone who disavowed the law.

As for realism, my cancer never quite seemed real to me, until the doctors began pulling tumors out of my body. Even after all these years, and 6 surgeries, scars and all, how do I really know that they were taking tumors out of my body, and not just using me for practice?

In spite of all the CTscans, MRI's, and PET Scans, blood work ups, chemo, radiation therapy, etc... how do I really know they weren't just trying to get my money as part of a greater scam to defraud insurance companies?

Do my questions of these things make the idea of it being an insurance fraud valid, and the truth that I really did have cancer, a lie just because I question it? Especially since according to all of the doctors, I've violated every statistic out there on my cancer-- advanced melanoma.

I'm sure that in 2000 years when the archeaologists find my medical records, they'll just laugh and say it was all a lie, and my cancer never really happened.

SteveB

instead of asking me, direct your questions to the people who put the webpage together. unless of course you really don't care, and are just seeking an excuse to just dismiss it all as a lie.

Toto

There is nothing there to dismiss as a lie.

Are you under some misimpression that the website endorses the idea that there was a trial of Jesus that can be historically validated? What do you think this website proves?