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Old 04-14-2007, 06:58 PM   #21
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The work is not, he insists, official church doctrine, nor an infallible pronouncement.
So he writes, " Anyone is free to contradict me".
The Pope has just given the world permission to contradict him. Please make use of this rare opportunity.

This is real scary.
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So here we are, Benedict the 'flat earth' mythicist. And who says that the world is round in his language?
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So what is Jesus, Chris?
A human, a dead one.
This is unbelievable. Jesus was human and he is dead. Chris Weimer says so and it's true. Unbelievable!
Scylla and Charybdis.
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Introducing doubts undercuts the essence of Christianity, the pope says.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
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But do keep in mind that if any person had mocked any secular ruler the way Galileo had parodied Urban VIII, the former would certainly not have died of old age, as Galileo did.
Galileo did not mock Urban VIII. That was just an invention of G's enemies. (I take it you are referring to the character of Simplicio in Dialogue of the Two Chief World Systems).
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Benedict takes on half a century of revisionist scholars

Apparently, The Poop has never heard of the Gnostics.
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Scylla and Charybdis.
In my opinion, Jesus was a dead one. I've come to that conclusion based on the evidence. Meanwhile, aa uses faulty logic and fallacies, but what can you expect from equivocating spin. :huh:
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But do keep in mind that if any person had mocked any secular ruler the way Galileo had parodied Urban VIII, the former would certainly not have died of old age, as Galileo did.
Was there no political satire in the the Renaissance? Were all the satirists juridicially murdered?
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Where's the logic? If something is both 100% real, and 100% imaginary, then you still have the 100% real part left over.
Uh 50 + 50 = 100 unless you are using trinitarian maths!

The point is that the Pope has stated Jesus is 100% god and 100% man - which confuses trinitarian maths where god is 100% god, 100% Jesus and 100% Holy Spirit - I take that as meaning there is a fourth part of the godhead - man - and god is 400%! (What about woman?).

It is the Pope's logic that results in a mythical Christ. Whether or not there is a human behind the story is a secondary matter, the evidence I see is it starts mythological and ends mythological.

What is fascinating is the head of the catholic church explicitly stating they have a mythical Christ!
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In my opinion, Jesus was a dead one.
Thanks for sharing your opinion, Chris.

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I've come to that conclusion based on the evidence.
Given that you have not a scrap evidence that you can relate directly to the life of a Jesus, you know what that conclusion is worth.

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Meanwhile, aa uses faulty logic and fallacies, but what can you expect from equivocating spin. :huh:
  • What's the name of Herod's barber, Chris?
  • When did Josephus die?
  • What was the last word of Thucydides' history?
  • Who wrote the Epistle to the Hebrews?
  • What was Herod the Great's father's father's wife's name?
  • What was Gaius Marius's parents' pet name for him when he was a child?
  • Where did Junius Brutus get the knife he used on Big Julie?
  • How did Herod Antipas die?
  • In what year did Herod Antipas marry his sister Herodias?
  • What was the source for Pliny's Essene passage?
  • How many children did Suetonius have?
  • How many languages could Constantine the Great speak?
  • Was Lucian of Samosata's Peregrinus a real person? If so, how do you know?
  • Where was Antigonus Monophthalmus born?
  • How old was Socrates's wife Xanthippe when she died?
  • Why didn't Antiochus III listen to Hannibal's advice before Magnesia?
  • What political position did Quirinius hold the year after he was consul?
  • How many mistresses did Julius Caesar have?
  • Who was Mark Antony's maternal grandmother?
  • When did Herod Archelaus die?
  • What made Vienne Augustus's choice for the place to exile Archelaus?
  • What was the name of the horse Alexander the Great rode when he came back from India?
  • Where was the Rubicon?
  • Etc.
Can you answer one of these questions, Chris? Just one? As you don't believe in equivocation, I'm sure you can answer every last one of them, though you needn't answer any. I know it's nice to have answers, but there are more questions than not in history that don't have answers -- at least at the moment.

I haven't seen you present any evidence that shows Jesus could have been a dead anything, Chris. In fact, I don't think you have any contemporary evidence on the subject whatsoever. Zilch. Zippo. Nada.

But then I'm sure you can prove me wrong. I couldn't expect you to equivocate.

It's useful to know when you don't know something.


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