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Old 07-08-2004, 12:14 AM   #31
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We do have caramel apples.

Does that count?
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Old 07-08-2004, 04:53 AM   #32
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I must remember to add to my shopping basket:
Custard
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Do you guys have those where you live?
Yes. Mmmmm...
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My supernatural reality is more concrete than your cynical atheism..
Only in the sense that your mind can't be changed by evidence. That doesn't mean that your viewpoint is true; it means that your viewpoint is weak enough that you are afraid to allow it to be argued against. It's like I decided one day that 1 + 1 = 7, and refused to believe any mathematician that taught otherwise. My belief would certainly be "concrete", but would it be true?

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It's funny tho', when I try to preach about Jesus, I have an imaginary friend, ha! but some one else like Dissident will try to coax me into it while every else is plotting evil on thier beds.
As far as I know, I haven't been plotting evil on my bed, whatever that means.

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Doctrinally no Jesus can be preached but the Jesus protrayed in the bible.
Why not? Lots of people do it.

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In short, atheism in a general sense mocks God
Please explain. If I say, "I am not a Buddhist," do I mock Buddha? If I say, "I like to eat duck," do I mock vegans? Or ducks?
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Why do I feel like i've had a conversation with you before?
Could be,

A. I paint pictures for children at the beach. Maybe you have been to a location I was at. You sound like some of the kids who come here on holiday...

B. A lot of ex-alcoholics and ex-drug abusers come here too...

C. I've worked with mental patients in the past...

D. Some of the mental patients think I'm Jesus [I do favor alot of the Renaissance dipictions and can perform magic/miracles] but to be fair some of them think I am Satan! Who knows maybe they are right! So if you have talked to God maybe you were talking to me! Or on the other hand if you have ever summoned Satan...
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Old 07-10-2004, 06:40 AM   #35
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Your sweeping generalizations of what skeptics wish are not even close to the mark. Some skeptics may desire to disprove Christianity, some may simply view it with a far more critical eye than most, some may be reserving judgement until more evidence is available, etc.

You may wish to actually examine the viewpoints of others before you draw your conclusions. By way of example, I am a skeptic, but it has nothing to do with you. You could worship a giant purple dancing radish and I would not care, up to the point where you told me I must worship it as well, at which point we will have a certain degree of difficulty.

I know Catalyst, I don't know why I do that, but I think it is matter of the text-tone voice problem.Face to talk would be different because I express myself with tone of voices and body language. I've just been through alot of opposition.. was that radish 'god' the vegatable? ha ha I think you funny,but it also presents a pardox, We both converse, but the results of the indifference is my Teacher tells me profess the word.. And alot of the responses here hurt me because I have a deep faith..

If it may sounded I told you to worship something, I did not mean, you're still a person and funny at times.. BTW, the Shrek donkey question, mysteriously I think the really is Duncan because I watch that movie.. I hope your poll wasn't a joke. lol

I made a post to bulldog regard this isuee, perhaps we could start a friendly thread at C+F to discuss our mistunderstandings about me?

til' we meet again.. v7

I will sail my Jesus vessel til my river runs dry..
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Could be,

A. I paint pictures for children at the beach. Maybe you have been to a location I was at. You sound like some of the kids who come here on holiday...

B. A lot of ex-alcoholics and ex-drug abusers come here too...

C. I've worked with mental patients in the past...

D. Some of the mental patients think I'm Jesus [I do favor alot of the Renaissance dipictions and can perform magic/miracles] but to be fair some of them think I am Satan! Who knows maybe they are right! So if you have talked to God maybe you were talking to me! Or on the other hand if you have ever summoned Satan...

Ya can blaspheme all you want.. I just feel I have job to do. I will not get angry or post the judgement/mankind scripture surroung the issues Atheists have..

It would be extremely help to understand or gather some knowlege on the concepts they have so I could learn more and be able to communicate the issues more effectively. I don't know them all..

I would like to ask nicely the reasons and principles Atheists have to cause them to accept it..

I'm going to start a thread about the issue. but in what section would it belong?

I'm going to start a prophecy thread to discuss and debate..

I'm not here to enfocre my belief on you,I just hope learn more about the secular webs..

can catalyst give me a pin for deciding to become a permanent partcipant?
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Old 07-10-2004, 07:34 AM   #37
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Only in the sense that your mind can't be changed by evidence. That doesn't mean that your viewpoint is true; it means that your viewpoint is weak enough that you are afraid to allow it to be argued against. It's like I decided one day that 1 + 1 = 7, and refused to believe any mathematician that taught otherwise. My belief would certainly be "concrete", but would it be true?
Why would my viewpoint be weak? I have persisted for 5 years Chapka..

What gives you the assumption that I would be afraid to argue my sentiments? God is on my side. You cannot know my spiritual precidaments because you do not know God. We can talk about the bible El-Shaddai, you may mock him if you wish..But I will not mock Atheist in the same manner because the Rose of Sharon tells scripturally to never repay evil for evil. Only evil for good..

And a small scripture that I would like your thoughts on.. It's relevant that you expound your thoughts on this to push the wind against both of our backs in getting to know each other.. Despite our differences in belief.

Please think carefully if you should choose to expound on this single short verse from the new testament.

There is none good but God only.


Most in the forum debates on facts and historical errors are theistic/ theology knowledge. I tend to go the direction of spritual and convince ment. I can parry mean games of british fence in both realms..So either way...

As for your 1+1=7 statement.. From my latest bible standpoint, God's math is entirely different from our basic human mathematics. I will make your descendants as numerous as sand on the sea shore, 2,419 days etc...




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As far as I know, I haven't been plotting evil on my bed, whatever that means.
I have a habit of using scripture to start a theme..Intriniscally it refers to God speaking of the doomed/or evil people during the biblical times and up to this day.

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Why not? Lots of people do it.
Why not what? the preaching of Jesus being protrayed diffrently by 'supposed' christians..? If my memory serves me right.. I'll get my book of my shelf.. ahh found it...

Phillipians 1.18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in everyway, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice..

So I'm not speaking from selfish ambiton, I recanting from general goodwill.



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Please explain. If I say, "I am not a Buddhist," do I mock Buddha? If I say, "I like to eat duck," do I mock vegans? Or ducks?
No, its a scripture analogy meaning God can not be mocked according to basic biblical doctrine. It refers to Jesus and the parable of the seed and the sower and other NT scriptures. However this can apply to any situation, For example, If you do not watch your check book, you will overdraw your balance and those evil banks will charge you those ludicrous fees. So "we all reap what sow"

And for the poster who asked if I was wrong would i want to know, if some one could show me how or where I could be wrong in whatsover any respectable Athiest If they wish..

I'm not scared to hear whatever argument, I would like the best ones.

All respectable atheists, don't forget that I wish to have friendly discussions, not outrages..Due to my previous experiences.

cheers
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Old 07-10-2004, 09:35 AM   #38
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V7, what nationality are you? Is English your 2nd language?
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Old 07-10-2004, 12:37 PM   #39
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V7, what nationality are you? Is English your 2nd language?
I am an American.

I am white 21 yrs come from a long line of christian grandfathers, there's no telling how far my line goes back. Born deep south Tex I love it there.

I'm english, and it is my first language. However I mastered American sign language.

Im curious to is so hard to people to be able to understand my posts..

I think my words are set in bible based stanzas and duplicates of thought and some other surrounding instances.

so, I feel a need to be incooperation with guidelines if one is will to participate in the topic of this thread?

I just want to get to know people.
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Old 07-10-2004, 07:48 PM   #40
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You asked me question and I answered it...

I also made a polite formal request asking atheists to help me out on thier misgivings so maybe I could shed some light or benefit it some way.

Are the Atheist afraid to listen to what I have say about Jesus?

I'm not here to tear anyone down.. but why no reponse?



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