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Withered · 01-10-2007, 09:35 PM

In Genesis 4:14, caine, angry with god cries out that everyone that finds me will try to kill me.

The result is that god marks Caine in order to protect him from those that would seek to do him harm.

My question is who is caine afraid of, and who does god subsequently protect him from by marking him.

Thomas II · 01-11-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LarsLogue

In Genesis 4:14, caine, angry with god cries out that everyone that finds me will try to kill me.

The result is that god marks Caine in order to protect him from those that would seek to do him harm.

My question is who is caine afraid of, and who does god subsequently protect him from by marking him.

From Abel's homies who had been driving around Cain's house to see if they could pop one in him...

Withered · 01-12-2007, 03:44 AM

That is pretty funny. I just finished playing Saints Row, and now i have to go back and make a few biblical gangstas...

AnimatedMalamute · 01-14-2007, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas II

From Abel's homies who had been driving around Cain's house to see if they could pop one in him...

:notworthy:

In response to the OP, I thought I heard somewhere once some old stories state that there were "others" that weren't from A&E(?), though I have no idea who they were or where they came from. I'd have to figure out where I heard that.

My personal opinion is that either the author making up this story or someone down the line got confused and forgot there wasn't supposed to be anyone else - thereby committing a continuity error.

~Jerod T.

WishboneDawn · 01-14-2007, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AnimatedMalamute

My personal opinion is that either the author making up this story or someone down the line got confused and forgot there wasn't supposed to be anyone else - thereby committing a continuity error.

~Jerod T.

When you're reading Genesis you're into ancient oral tradition. There's no real author, at best it's from a certain tradition or group of people. More likely it's just one of the quirks of myths that have been retold so many times.

Emperor Gestahl · 01-14-2007, 03:09 AM

Well Caine and Abel somehow found wives in the forest or some such so I guess there could be some dudes wandering around too. And we all know they can get quarterstaffs for free so that's 1d6 damage to worry about.

-Dustin

AnimatedMalamute · 01-14-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WishboneDawn

When you're reading Genesis you're into ancient oral tradition. There's no real author, at best it's from a certain tradition or group of people. More likely it's just one of the quirks of myths that have been retold so many times.

Well, yeah, that's what I meant.

~Jerod T.

WishboneDawn · 01-14-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimatedMalamute

Well, yeah, that's what I meant.

~Jerod T.

Withered · 01-14-2007, 03:48 PM

I have always been genuinely curious about that.
The reason for my curiosity has always been how an inerrantist might intrepret that, or what apologetics might be used regarding it.

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we cant beat this thing, this is unbalanced. Im outa here.

David B · 01-14-2007, 04:01 PM

I read something once that suggested that the Cain and Abel story was a way of dramatising, or keeping in folk memory, the conflict between conflicting lifestyles, as man became more agricultural.

A bit like the themes of many westerns, which recount the conflict between settlers and nomadic herders in a more modern day setting.

David B (doesn't find that implausible)

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Withered Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: America Posts: 690	Genesis 4 In Genesis 4:14, caine, angry with god cries out that everyone that finds me will try to kill me. The result is that god marks Caine in order to protect him from those that would seek to do him harm. My question is who is caine afraid of, and who does god subsequently protect him from by marking him.

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01-12-2007, 03:44 AM	#3
Withered Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: America Posts: 690	That is pretty funny. I just finished playing Saints Row, and now i have to go back and make a few biblical gangstas...

01-14-2007, 03:09 AM	#6
Emperor Gestahl Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: USA Posts: 13	Well Caine and Abel somehow found wives in the forest or some such so I guess there could be some dudes wandering around too. And we all know they can get quarterstaffs for free so that's 1d6 damage to worry about. -Dustin

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David B Contributor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wales Posts: 11,620	I read something once that suggested that the Cain and Abel story was a way of dramatising, or keeping in folk memory, the conflict between conflicting lifestyles, as man became more agricultural. A bit like the themes of many westerns, which recount the conflict between settlers and nomadic herders in a more modern day setting. David B (doesn't find that implausible)

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