Toto

I think Vork hit the Edit button when he meant to hit Quote. . .

Epictetus

Au contrair. It is very possible and happens all the time; i.e. suicide bombers, all of the examples given by other posters. Besides, how do we know they existed, let along died, let alone died horrible deaths? Propaganda.

Yeah...right. Why didn't the risen savior bail their butts out when they allegedly go into trouble? Because he was back in the heavenly palace with Big Daddy relaxing from the squalid life he had to live in Palestine according to the plan.

Just like their leader: "Father, why have you forsaken me?" That's a tough one for one part of the trinity to say to another part. You'd think they would be on the same wave length and that Jesus would have had all the answers. Instead, he chooses to whine from the cross.

You mean, I didn't have to burned at the stake? If I had only said, "It's all a bunch of B.S.? " Man, do I feel stupid.

This one is really amusing! Fictitious guys changed the whole course of history. Yeah...Constantine didn't have anything to do with it, did he? 300 years later??? :huh:
Oh...well you've researched it! Why am I even responding? After all, you've researched it. Why do xtians use the same, tired arguments over and over without ever exercising their gray matter? They are like parrots, squawking out what they have been told to squawk. Sometimes I think they just post a bunch of nonsense in here with the sole intent to stir everybody up, while they sit back and rub their hands in glee at the mental energy expended answering them. So, with that tidbit of revelation, I suppose you should just ignore what I've said.

Weltall

There isn't any and specifically there is an absence of evidence where there should be evidence attesting to it having taken place. What that means is that Willowtree had better start eating... Nice screen name by the way. Welcome aboard!

Jack the Bodiless

Ah, yes, the "Argument from Small Boxes".

All of the New Testament documents we have from the first three centuries AD could very easily fit into a small box (unlike all those hominid fossils).

So we can ignore them, and declare that Christianity was invented by Constantine. How convenient.

WILLOWTREE

Unsupported assertion.

You are ignoring evidence and comforting yourself contrary.

Like I said the fanatical boastings of the rank and file do not match the facts as stated by the authorities.

IOW, evidence which disproves your claims does not mean what it says.

Human evolution is a theory supported by a handful of evidence in relation to the claim that all human beings evolved = paucity of the biggest magnitude.

Human evolution is a preexisting narrative structure created by prejudice which these few fossils are inserted into.

This is not science but storytelling via the expertise of a used car salesman.

Prove your altered assertion or withdraw it.

funinspace

Willow,

Could you explain why you think it' impossible for someone to follow a lie? A few things come to mind (a few previously mentioned but ignored):
Jim Jones, and the coolaid
David Keresh
Hale Bob
Heaven's gate

And these are just the famous ones of the last couple decades. Do you consider Islam a lie? And do you think no one has died/been martyred for Alah/Mohamad?

Your comments really don't seam to add up to a logical argument.

Kosh

Of course, you're conveniently ignoring the non-fossil evidence. Let's not forget the DNA sequences!

Vork - why don't you split this thread and move it to E/C where WILLOWTREE can have a proper branch trimming?

Crucifiction

And the Resurrection has more than a handful of evidence supporting it? :rolling:

Seriously, people die for lies all the time. The "witches" during the Inquisition were killed by people mistaking them for witches. Also, people even kill themselves for lies, such as the cases others have pointed out.

Diogenes the Cynic

Believe me, I know. I was just curious as to what kind of softballs Willowtree might serve up. So far his arguments seem to consist of nothing but bald assertions.
Thank you, it's nice to be here. :wave:

Jedi Mind Trick

I guess they used to say it could fit on a billiard table... So it has shrunk? Ummm... Nope.
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