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Clivedurdle · 05-02-2006, 01:03 PM

From Dating Jesus thread

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Originally Posted by Clivedurdle
I would argue that Egyptian roots of this religion are very important - remember the Greeks and Egyptians were interchangeable - Alexandria - an epic based on the Phoenix Christ written in Egypt but based in Palestine?

Any good writer or editor would dump some aramaic in the story!

A comment on the radio this morning - epics were meant to be spoken aloud and listened to with our ears. Novels and reading - using our eyes - is a much later technique.

What happens to the New Testament when its primary means of communication is by listening? Does it obviously become classic epic?

Have we missed a basic primary translation, from ears to eyes?

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Celine:This is no small point, no small point at all. I've been tempted to make it after lurking and reading many, many threads on this forum.

And while I admire and find enlightening so many of the linguistic and semantic discussions around here. your point, Clivedurdle, is almost totally obscured.

There is a VAST difference between the context and meaning received by the human ear, and that "heard" by the inner, translating, narrative voice.
I think maybe Harold Bloom, somewhat of a semi-amateur biblical scholar, may have written something about this.

Thank you!

It has bugged me that the meaning of all this is so different when presented by a skilled orator or when read - this might actually be the fundamental reason for the differences between catholic and protestant beliefs.

My mother - Welsh - and my father - English - means I have been brought up with both traditions - the power of the Welsh in full throat at a Rugby International, the Spirituals, the powerful voices of preachers in comparison with the written word based academic arguments about texts.

We may argue about who wrote

http://www.nazarenus.com/

but the passion is obviously a play!

Is the Word of God written, spoken or sung?

(And this is why at heart I probably see this as myth, as classic epic.)

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