Chili

It must be nice to be the envy of them all.

Chili

Sure, I understand. We call that Christian here wherein theists and atheists stand united to kill a Catholic. Is that what you had in mind?

Sheshbazzar

"We....here"...? __I don't think so Chili. Few if any here, call anything what you call it.
Human history has demonstrated quite the opposite. Catholics notoriously robbed and slaughtered both theists and atheists for centuries.


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Chili

No Just kidding, and know you all mean well.

I do see the error we all see except to me it is all philosophy as just to love of wisdom unto myself, and am just ranting here.

Chili

Oops, sry you have that wrong. During the time that Catholicism was the officail state religion everybody was allowed to believe, or not believe.

Beyond that you were allowed to believe anything you want and even gather in small groups as dissenters from the national faith.

The reason for this is that the wolf must nurse the lamb because Catholicism itself is cold, and so they were needed to do their dirty work, lets say, which was a great pleasure to them as 'another soul' got saved, they say, while it was not the soul but the sinner that got saved.

The problem really was that marauding their flock was not allowed and scatter it like wolves are known to do, for which there were fair warnings out that actually kept the wolves lean and mean to work at night to convert innocent believers, who, like virgins to their enchanting power got raped in many diferent and fancyfull ways, that so also felt good to them.

So the Church saw this as spiritual fornication wherein only virgins was their aim and so at times they put a stop to this. In essence it was an act wherein the 'child within' was from his mother's womb untimely ripped and for this the millstone was the appropriate reward in the very bible that they promulgate, and so earned the reward they received and that was ofted served to them on a platter of their own choice.

So it really was public service that had nothing to do wth Catholics but was the enforcement of Public Policy only.

Chili

To kill here means to rob from eternal life, and that is done to the righteous and innocent by the delusional thinkers who profess to confess your sins and to be born-again like them.

To kill here is to provoke the Herodain massacre in them.

Sheshbazzar

Seems that history records that the Catholic religion had a word for dissenters from the national faith....now what was that word ???
Hmmm ......guess I'll have to look it up again. ....Oh, here it is; 'Heretic!'

From THE CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA

So Chili ... During the time that Catholicism was the officail state religion...everybody was allowed to believe, or not believe... ...whatever the religious state demanded that they believe.

They had a choice. They could profess to believe what the Catholic Church and the Government under its thumb demanded be believed... or face a painful execution.

Beyond that they were allowed to believe anything they wanted. ...IF they wanted to be tortured and burned at the stake.

If they wanted, they could gather in small groups as dissenters from the national faith. ...that is IF they wanted to be gathered up, tortured, and burned at the stake, while their Catholic murderers sang psalms and chanted prayers to the music of their screams.
(and of course, The Church hierarchy received all of their property too.... so very convenient, .... so very lucrative.)

This is of course only a small part of what can be learned from the Catholic Church's archives, They were quite meticulous record keepers, one can still search out and read the details of these 'trials' and the sentences inflicted for even thinking any different than the Creeds.

I'll never understand why any humane rational person would choose to ever associate themselves with such a historically evil and insane religious cult.
Are the glitter, trinkets, and pomp really all that attractive? Like a religious fly paper that cannot be escaped?

Got that old apple hanging out for you? Saying; 'You shall not surely die'? Do you listen to talking snakes?



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Chili

KB is pointing at the other gospel that Paul talked about, and if there are two Gosples they will be opposite, and so then the 'other one' is the delusion.

I may be much to forward in this but I call Matthew the other gosples where the murder of the innocent (Herodian massacre) is the reason why God had forsaken him, and then of course material Mark ate locusts by the swarm (Lev. 11:42) and could not know why that line was there.

Chili

Except that they called it Catholic and decisively not Christian who's beloved Jesus must like a dirty rag be left behind. So yes, there two are like polar opposites.

Chili

Well Chess, I never really studied that like you, but if faith is a gift of God it must bear witness to truth so you do not have to remember what you were told, and so also fear was never part of it. And no, I do not remember what I was ever told.