stephan huller

Or at least that was the original claim of the earliest Christians for which we have any information. I almost feel like I am developing a creed for mythicists but that's not true. But the point isn't whether we think it is possible for a supernatural being or a god to have existence. The point is pin pointing what the original claim was, and I have done that here.

Whether or not you accept the Marcionite or 'heretical' claims about Jesus or the early proto-Catholic understanding about a god born to a woman or a god born to a virgin, in the words of Michael Jackson - this is it! Nothing more, nothing less. Nothing more to talk about.

outhouse

"Ancient Aliens" is going to love you.



But I still think you have it backwards. A historical man lived and was martyred and hellenistic mythology grew from this passover event.

stephan huller

no jesus could fly and walk through crowds and on water.

aa5874

You have not presented any historical sources for your real supernatural being??

Which book??

The Gospels are not credible sources.

stephan huller

Thanks aa

Minimalist

Too late.

aa5874

You are merely stating your position but have not presented the supporting evidence. Everyone KNOWS that those who claim Jesus was historical are HJers.

There are two fundamental arguments:

1. There was an historical Jesus of Nazareth.

2. There was no historical Jesus of Nazareth.

The next stage is the PRESENTATION of evidence.

If Jesus of Nazareth had NO real existence in the 1st century then we would expect NO ONE to have claimed that they saw him.

That is Precisely what has happened.

Even, the supposed contemporaries of Jesus NEVER EVER claimed they saw him alive--NO ONE--Nobody.

Jesus was indeed Supernatural--Jesus was God born of a Ghost.

Gods and Ghosts are Myths in the HJ/MJ argument.

stephan huller

excellent aa

Clivedurdle

But not originally. This is precisely what Christians claim. For evidence may I recommend the Billy Graham Evangelical Association training I went on many moons ago?

The classic xian creeds are by definition mythical - Emmanuel - God with us.

Now an interesting question is are we looking at a Jewish Greek synthesis? The Greeks loved their statues of the gods, so making a god into a man is only like making a statue live.

Now are there statues of Jesus? Oh yes, they all look like Apollo as the good shepherd....

mountainman

excellent clive


Now are there any mosaics of Jesus? Oh yes, the one in the British Museum looks very much like Constantine.





CLOSEUP ....





Harry Potter and Bilbo Baggins were Supernatural Beings Who Appeared in Real Historical Time.

They were born into Real Historical Time via a book release.

Heaven forbid but could Jesus have suffered the same fate?