Kosh

In a conversation about middle east instability today with my Xian Fundy co-worker, I tried to explain how the archeaology showed that Israel arose as an outgrowth of Canaanite culture, rather conquering it.

The Fundies reply: " Oh come on, that's just calling God a liar...." :banghead:

inquisitive01

Why do atheists have to put so many labels on what are otherwise known as other people? Why not just say "my co-worker," rather than my "Xian-Fundy co-worker," in other words? Does this somehow help in pleading one's case (as if we are all in court, of course)? :huh:

GypsyLife

Because adjectives are our friends.

Toto

Most "other people" would not say something so out of touch.

Think about it. Saying that "archeology shows that Bible stories are incorrect" means you are "calling God a liar" is the equivalent of saying that God must have planted false evidence.

Kosh

It very accurately (in this case) identifies the individuals entire personality, disposition, and mindset, in just 3 words.

It's called "efficient communication", something your God could use a lesson in!

inquisitive01

Examples? Or, are you referring to man's communication concerning God?

As for the Xian-Fundy label, one must also consider that no two people are exactly alike.

Angrillori

Neither are two shades of red, so should we stop using the word 'red?'

I think, BTW that the reference to inefficient communication refers to the supposed fact that an omniscient deity wrote a book that was SO poor at communicating its message that 2000 years later we have 10,000+ different interpretations of it.

But, back OT, that's an excellent opportunity to ask them what they mean:

They say: Well, if it were true, then the bible would be lying.
You say: But if the bible is true, then the way god laid out the evidence is deceptive--a lie!

Or,

They say: Well if the bible were true, then god would be deceiving us by his placement of evidence.
You say: But if the evidence is true, then god is deceiving us in the bible!

Or offer up both, try to expose the contradiction and watch them, as usual, cover up their ears and close their eyes, and hide behind non-standard definitions of the word 'he,' and bizarre arrangements of pronouns and antecedents.

inquisitive01

Do you think the Bible was written by God? If so, why?

Godless Wonder

Excellent point. There are no examples of communiques from God, or any other evidence of His supposed existence.

(Angrillori, I think your 2nd sentence needs a "supposed" before the word "fact.")

inquisitive01

There are accounts of this in the Bible, though. However, if one must see everything to believe it exists, then would you describe air or carbon monoxide gas as nonexistent? In other words, we have faith that air is there so long as we're able to breath, even though we can't see it (otherwise, we'd be in constant fear of not having air to breath).