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Old 01-26-2006, 11:27 PM   #1
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Jesus was not a Nazarean. He is a myth.
That is precisely what makes it possible for him to be a Nazorean.
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Jesus was a stream entrant or purgatorian who's special vows were not made by association but they were nature driven towards the completion of enlightenment.

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"Let me be a Nazarite on the day when the son of David [the Messiah] shall come."
He was such a son of David but by no means the only one.
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The idea the Jesus was originally part of the Nasoreans, the followers of John the Baptist, is strongly advocated by Helmut Koester.

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He would be. The nazoreans are the wolves that nurture the lamb of God to maturity which is what makes Galilee messianic. Galilee is the place where liberation from religion (Judaism is slavery to sin and religion) must be found and these would be the mistaken 'fiery' followers of John who baptized with water.
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That is precisely what makes it possible for him to be a Nazorean.
Debating the minutia of a myth such as this one is a gross waste of time.
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Debating the minutia of a myth such as this one is a gross waste of time.
That is not true but trying to convince others of a particular position is a waste of time. Very true. Awakening occurs by posing a question and leaving it unanswered until, if we are lucky, the answer will come to us while we are at rest . . . with the ultimate question just being one of them but is this one is answered only under specific circumstances because we are the subject of the major premis.

The questions we ask ourselves come from the place where the answer is found or the question itself would never enter our thoughts.
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That is not true
It is true.
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but trying to convince others of a particular position is a waste of time. Very true. Awakening occurs by posing a question and leaving it unanswered until, if we are lucky, the answer will come to us while we are at rest
This particular question has already been answered - hundreds of years ago. The religion is a myth. Toss it in the scrap heap of history with all the other myths.
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with the ultimate question just being one of them but is this one is answered only under specific circumstances because we are the subject of the major premis.
That makes no sense.
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The questions we ask ourselves come from the place where the answer is found or the question itself would never enter our thoughts.
Again, that makes no sense. English is not your first language, is it?
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Do you know what I think is a waste of time?

Hijacking a thread saying entity x does not exist and that by discussing x at all we are wasting our time.

And patronising people.
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It is true.This particular question has already been answered - hundreds of years ago. The religion is a myth. Toss it in the scrap heap of history with all the other myths.That makes no sense.Again, that makes no sense. English is not your first language, is it?
But the truth behind myth is a no-sense reality or it would be nonsense and not worthy of our time.
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