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Toto · 09-10-2008, 05:23 PM

If anyone is in the area, this looks interesting:

Katharina Galor will talk on "Jesus: What is the Archeological Evidence?"

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Galor, who has spent 20 years working and living in Israel, is an adjunct assistant professor in the department of Judaic studies at Brown University. She received a Ph.D. degree in archaeology from Brown University in 1996 and completed her post-doctoral studies at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem in 1997.

The lecture will cover archaeological evidence from first-century Jerusalem around the time of Christ. Benton Kidd, associate curator of ancient art at MU's Museum of Art and Archeology and president of the Central Missouri Society of the Archaeological Institute of America, said Galor will discuss various issues and controversies surrounding Jesus, such as the controversy over Jesus' appearance, the supposed tombs of Jesus' family and sites claimed to be the tomb of Jesus.

mountainman · 09-10-2008, 08:31 PM

From the article ...

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Galor said that first-century Jerusalem is very well-known archaeologically and that the city can be reconstructed with copious detail.

"I find it unfortunate, despite the fact that we have such detailed sources to help us imagine what the city looked like and what life was like at the time, that there's still this need ... to find the truth that Jesus really existed and lived in the city," Galor said.

She said even archaeologists sometimes let their faith get in the way of what the facts. She said these archaeologists are "motivated by faith that sometimes blinds them and falsifies their judgment of the data."

Galor's lecture is part of a series put on by the Archaeological Institute of America, Central Missouri Society. The Museum of Art and Archaeology, the Center for Arts and the Humanities, the Center on Religion and the Professions, the Department of Art History and Archaeology, the Department of Learning, Teaching and Curriculum, and the Department of Religious Studies are co-sponsoring the event.

"There has been a lot of interest in this lecture," Kidd said.

Perhaps Oded (the Ossary man) will get a mention?
Anyone going to take notes?

Best wishes,

Pete

spamandham · 09-10-2008, 09:53 PM

It does sound interesting. I found this noteworthy:

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"It is important to set the records straight about what we actually know about Jesus and what we can corroborate about Jesus outside of the New Testament," Kidd said.
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"I am going to talk about the impact of later myths that surround the historical facts from the first century and also how the media sometimes falsifies what archaeology can actually tell us about the first century," Galor said.
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She said even archaeologists sometimes let their faith get in the way of what the facts. She said these archaeologists are "motivated by faith that sometimes blinds them and falsifies their judgment of the data."

dog-on · 09-11-2008, 12:47 AM

Must have been the shortest archeological lecture of all time...

youngalexander · 09-11-2008, 01:01 AM

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The lecture will cover archaeological evidence from first-century Jerusalem around the time of Christ. Benton Kidd, associate curator of ancient art at MU's Museum of Art and Archaeology and president of the Central Missouri Society of the Archaeological Institute of America, said Galor will discuss various issues and controversies surrounding Jesus, such as the controversy over Jesus' appearance, the supposed tombs of Jesus' family and sites claimed to be the tomb of Jesus.

Just Kidding around?

mountainman · 09-11-2008, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by youngalexander

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The lecture will cover archaeological evidence from first-century Jerusalem around the time of Christ.

Just Kidding around?

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I'm guessing there will be no items presented
on the subject matter related to any HJ.
In fact, if this were a game of poker ...

Best wishes,

Pete

Clivedurdle · 09-12-2008, 12:37 PM

The lecture may be linked to on here

http://faithinfocus.wordpress.com/

Toto · 09-14-2008, 11:31 AM

news report

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The reconstruction of Jesus' face, which has appeared recently in the media, would be difficult to ascertain, Galor said. Facial features are determined by the way skin and muscles lie, not bone structure alone. She said studies like this are sensationalized finds.

Yet some archeological finds provide a better landscape in which to understand the Judeo-Christian tradition. Ancient historians like Josephus, though not always accurate, have provided some acute information about the world in which Christianity first emerged.

"We have a lot to help (archeologists) reconstruct what the Herodian cities look like," Galor said.

Galor showed intricate maps of ancient Jerusalem and different constructions such as temples based on information gathered from accounts from Josephus, archeological digs and contemporary Jewish scholars and writers.

Charles Gadda · 09-15-2008, 12:03 AM

For anyone who might not be aware, it's Katarina Galor who organized the 2002 Brown University conference on the Dead Sea Scrolls and edited the conference proceedings which came out in 2006. This is where Magen and Peleg first reported on their findings, to the apparent chagrin of Jodi Magness who since then has devoted a good deal of her time to attacking them in her popular lecture(s) on Qumran at SBL/ASOR and, it would seem, one museum exhibit after another.

At the time of the conference, Galor was quoted in the New York Times as saying "the only consensus [on the Dead Sea scrolls] is that there is no consensus."

mountainman · 09-15-2008, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Toto

news report

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The reconstruction of Jesus' face, which has appeared recently in the media, would be difficult to ascertain, Galor said. Facial features are determined by the way skin and muscles lie, not bone structure alone. She said studies like this are sensationalized finds.

Scouting around the Holy Grail does not count as a citation. Is this lecture to be a review of known forgeries? Topical introductions to a field devoid of citations other than going through a list of forgeries? So far, we have one forgery cited and zero archaeology. I wonder what the final score will prove to be?

Best wishes,

Pete

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dog-on Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,397	Must have been the shortest archeological lecture of all time...

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Charles Gadda Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 249	For anyone who might not be aware, it's Katarina Galor who organized the 2002 Brown University conference on the Dead Sea Scrolls and edited the conference proceedings which came out in 2006. This is where Magen and Peleg first reported on their findings, to the apparent chagrin of Jodi Magness who since then has devoted a good deal of her time to attacking them in her popular lecture(s) on Qumran at SBL/ASOR and, it would seem, one museum exhibit after another. At the time of the conference, Galor was quoted in the New York Times as saying "the only consensus [on the Dead Sea scrolls] is that there is no consensus."

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