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countjulian · 01-15-2006, 01:49 PM

The Gospels and Paul in particular refers to those not Christians as "unbeleivers." Although many are uncofortable with this word, it appears in all the Bible translations I've seen. What is the Greek word most commonly translated as "unbelievers?" Is it "anathema?"

S.C.Carlson · 01-15-2006, 01:58 PM

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The Gospels and Paul in particular refers to those not Christians as "unbeleivers." Although many are uncofortable with this word, it appears in all the Bible translations I've seen. What is the Greek word most commonly translated as "unbelievers?" Is it "anathema?"

Without knowing the exact verse you have in mind, I would assume that the Greek word or "unbelievers" is APISTOI (ἄπιστοι) (e.g. at 1 Cor 6:6, 7:15, 10:27, and 14:22).

Stephen

countjulian · 01-15-2006, 05:29 PM

Exactly what I was looking for. Much thanks. BTW, what would be the nominative singular?

S.C.Carlson · 01-15-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by countjulian

Exactly what I was looking for. Much thanks. BTW, what would be the nominative singular?

APISTOS (ἄπιστος)

Stephen

The Admiral · 01-15-2006, 06:21 PM

Are not all open minded persons both believers and unbelievers?

Concerning religion in its innumerable manifestations, I am an unbeliever.

Concerning Evolution, I am a believer.

Concerning geocentricity, I am an unbeliever.

I do not believe that the Earth is flat. But then, how do you define "flat"?

We exist in a strange environment. But can you conceive a less strange environment?

The Admiral

Kydka · 01-15-2006, 08:48 PM

Very interesting to know. Are you thinking of a user name?

Zeichman · 01-15-2006, 11:28 PM

anathema means "cursed", if you wanted to know.

countjulian · 01-16-2006, 07:14 AM

Thanks.

Amaleq13 · 01-16-2006, 11:15 AM

FYI: Jewish tradition has equated Amalek (I just liked the "q" variant in spelling I happened upon at one website) with atheism and it is my understanding that he was granted the status of Demon Responsible For Unbelief. There is also the added bonus of thwarting the Lord's command that Amalek be forgotten.

RUmike · 01-16-2006, 02:02 PM

I found a great site which might be of use to you...

http://www.foreignword.com/Tools/dic...Q&submit1=+Go+

When you go to a specific greek word, it even brings up a table with the number of occurences of it in each book of the NT, and you can click on them further to see each and how it was rendered in the NAS.

01-15-2006, 01:49 PM	#1
countjulian Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the torture chambers of Pinochet's Chile Posts: 2,112	Greek for "Unbeliever" The Gospels and Paul in particular refers to those not Christians as "unbeleivers." Although many are uncofortable with this word, it appears in all the Bible translations I've seen. What is the Greek word most commonly translated as "unbelievers?" Is it "anathema?"

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The Admiral Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Racine, Wi. USA Posts: 768	believer/unbeliever Are not all open minded persons both believers and unbelievers? Concerning religion in its innumerable manifestations, I am an unbeliever. Concerning Evolution, I am a believer. Concerning geocentricity, I am an unbeliever. I do not believe that the Earth is flat. But then, how do you define "flat"? We exist in a strange environment. But can you conceive a less strange environment? The Admiral

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01-15-2006, 05:29 PM	#3
countjulian Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the torture chambers of Pinochet's Chile Posts: 2,112	Exactly what I was looking for. Much thanks. BTW, what would be the nominative singular?

01-15-2006, 08:48 PM	#6
Kydka Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 269	Very interesting to know. Are you thinking of a user name?

01-15-2006, 11:28 PM	#7
Zeichman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 562	anathema means "cursed", if you wanted to know.

01-16-2006, 07:14 AM	#8
countjulian Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the torture chambers of Pinochet's Chile Posts: 2,112	Thanks.

01-16-2006, 11:15 AM	#9
Amaleq13 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Eagle River, Alaska Posts: 7,816	FYI: Jewish tradition has equated Amalek (I just liked the "q" variant in spelling I happened upon at one website) with atheism and it is my understanding that he was granted the status of Demon Responsible For Unbelief. There is also the added bonus of thwarting the Lord's command that Amalek be forgotten.

01-16-2006, 02:02 PM	#10
RUmike Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 491	I found a great site which might be of use to you... http://www.foreignword.com/Tools/dic...Q&submit1=+Go+ When you go to a specific greek word, it even brings up a table with the number of occurences of it in each book of the NT, and you can click on them further to see each and how it was rendered in the NAS.

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