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Old 09-28-2005, 04:07 PM   #1
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Which one is Jack Lemmon and which is Walter Matthau? :Cheeky:
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Hey pilate, Hi there. I think one needs to have a sense of humor around here.

After all it's is only an internet discussion forum. People might post here for a variety of reasons, not necessarily to learn.

Maybe you just should lower your expectations of others and have agood laugh!

There are a number of excellent contributors to this forum, but hey if they even let me post here then obviously the barriers to entry are quite low.

Don't fall into the traps. I am appreciating your posts and attempts to learn something and post some evidence.
Keep up the good word.

P.S. Check your private message box.
thanks for the advise Judge. I have changed. Truly, I had some real laughstoday and I am now looking forward to more laughing.
I am still a serious student. And I respect those who respect me. Very much so. I don't project myself as someone high, becasue as you know "He who sets himself high, sets himself for a great fall."
By the way, my speculation is that the Gospel of Mark evolved either form a Aramaic tradition or from Aramaic manuscripts.
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:10 PM   #3
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He did not call you names. He did not think highly of your evidence, and said so.
I see now what you are doing, but I think you have missed the point.
I suggest that you come up with your "other evidence" and stop playing this game.
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he called me Andy. (You want more evidence? Just say Yes and I will go bring it and put it infront of your nose.)
Now check the record and see if I am wrong.
I am not doing anything different than the guru has done to others and to me.
I promise you we will have fun discussing the Bible. I am here to learn and exchange information. But I am not a sucker for punishment, as some of you have assumed. And no one should be treated diferrently in this forum.
Those who treat me with respect, I will treat them likewise.
I have some verse here to discus.
Do you or the guru see anything wrong with these verses?
"A fool's lips enter into contention, and his mouth calleth for strokes." Proverbs 18:6
"Judgments are prepared for scorners, and stripes for the back of fools." Proverbs 19:29
"Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.
" Proverbs 23:9
"Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit." Proverbs 26:5
Lets have a discussion on these verses. Can anyone see anything wrong with these verses?
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Toto,
he called me Andy. (You want more evidence? Just say Yes and I will go bring it and put it infront of your nose.)
He is assuming that you are Andrew Benson, since you listed Andrew Benson's webpage as your home page.

That's not what we mean in English when we say someone is calling you names.

If you object to being called Andy for whatever reason, you can say so.

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Now check the record and see if I am wrong.
I am not doing anything different than the guru has done to others and to me.
I promise you we will have fun discussing the Bible. I am here to learn and exchange information. But I am not a sucker for punishment, as some of you have assumed. And no one should be treated diferrently in this forum.
Those who treat me with respect, I will treat them likewise.
I have some verse here to discus.
Do you or the guru see anything wrong with these verses?
"A fool's lips enter into contention, and his mouth calleth for strokes." Proverbs 18:6
"Judgments are prepared for scorners, and stripes for the back of fools." Proverbs 19:29
"Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.
" Proverbs 23:9
"Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit." Proverbs 26:5
Lets have a discussion on these verses. Can anyone see anything wrong with these verses?
Do these verses relate to whether Mark was written in Aramaic? If not, please start another thread.

But I do see a lot wrong with these verses. They call for violence and they reflect a rather unpleasant attitude.
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he called me Andy. (You want more evidence? Just say Yes and I will go bring it and put it infront of your nose.)
That is taken the term name-calling somewhat literally. Is "Andy" am offensive name? Normally "name-calling refers to insults or offensive terms. Are you telling me in your flowery way I've got your name wrong, after you quoted from a book whose scholarship seemed to match your own which was authored by an Andrew?

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I promise you we will have fun discussing the Bible. I am here to learn and exchange information.
That's not how you started. You came here imparting secondary information and it seems you haven't stopped, except when you go through bouts of being offended because I for one didn't find your imparting at all convincing.

The rest of your post is too rhetorical for need of comment.


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He is assuming that you are Andrew Benson, since you listed Andrew Benson's webpage as your home page..
I said, I know Andrew Benson well, and his book very well.
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That's not what we mean in English when we say someone is calling you names. If you object to being called Andy for whatever reason, you can say so..
I object being called Andy. I object being called other epithets, too, such as Hillarious, etc.
By the same token if spin objects to being called the guru he can also say so. (Guru is not a demeaning title. Many people would like to become gurus, but they can't. Only certain people can achieve guruhood.)
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But I do see a lot wrong with these verses. They call for violence and they reflect a rather unpleasant attitude.
Well, there is physical violence and ther is verbal violence. And verbal violence, such as, ridiculing words, demeaning words, disrepectful words, usually do more damage. And this is the subject I brought up and some of you sat on me. Some made comments to this effect: that I should have a thicker skin and not be offended when someone redicules what I say, or talks down to me. (They said, they got used to it, themselves. As if it was an initiation ritual. Now they hand it out to others.) That is fine. From now on, I am used to it, too. What applies to me applies to everyone. No one should be insecure, or paranoid, when someone else makes demeaning comments about what they are saying. Afterall (I was told) we don't use our real names, so we cannot be offended (what a reasoning! - but now I am used to this, too.)
(I came with a piece of olive tree branch in my hand and some jumped on me, like I was a weirdo.) I can't wait to see the guru demean another person! Boy this is going to be fun!
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Pilate, the basic rules of decorum here are that while personal insults are forbidden, a poster's actual arguments are fair game for challenge and even ridicule.

having said that, if you prefer not to be called by your real name then I will respectfully request that Spin and others refrain from doing it.

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Pilate, the basic rules of decorum here are that while personal insults are forbidden, a poster's actual arguments are fair game for challenge and even ridicule.

having said that, if you prefer not to be called by your real name then I will respectfully request that Spin and others refrain from doing it.

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This is not my real name. but yes, you can request for spin and others to stop calling me any name (including epithets, such as hillarious, and other epithets that he used in the past.)
Can you please tell me how can I see the rules of conduct? (I saw something when I first signed up, but now I would not know where to find it.) Where do I click? Or can you send me a link? Because diferrent people tell me different things. I want to see the actual rules of conduct. I want to comply.
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We will, of course, continue to admonish posters from using other epithets. You shouldknow, however, that "hilarious" means "funny" and is not itself an epithet.
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We will, of course, continue to admonish posters from using other epithets. You shouldknow, however, that "hilarious" means "funny" and is not itself an epithet.
If hillarious is acceptable the guru is even more acceptable: it is a compliment: a title of high rank.
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