Chili

Converting you is the last thing I would ever try to do but I just wanted to point out that if the resurrection was not real Jesus died in vain. Now that sounds like a good old Christian response doesn't it?

More to the point, the fact that Christianity survived is evidence of the resurrection which in its turn is evidence of the crucifixion that must be a precondition for resurrection. See the sequence in proper context?

Now in case you missed it, the absence of historic dates and the presence of Sunday as the observed day of resurrection should make you take a second look at Sunday as the seventh on which evening did not follow the day. That alone should tell you Jesus did not die for 'sport' and might even take care of your hardon for the virgin Mary.

Chili

I see a contradiction here in Jesus coming back to life on earth if followers touched his risen body. The point is that Jesus came back to life in heaven and appeared on earth to show these wounds to his followers and discourse and sup with them to verify that he had died and rose again.

JPD

Now where exactly is heaven?

Jehanne

I agree with you 100%! (See, we are making progress, here!)

We disagree here...more later...

My point is not to make some sarcastic sexual joke but to make the point that there have been literally hundreds of thousands of “visitations� from the “Blessed Virgin Mary� over the centuries. In some cases, people have been burned alive for relaying the “wrong� message from the “Mother of God�. Anyone could make such a claim as to having a supernatural “visitation�, me included. If you are going to believe the children at Fatima, why not believe me? But, let’s get back to the article!

Chili

Oh, that's on the right side of your mind. So really, he died to his left and rose again in his right side . . . which was no more after the veil was rent but since the left side had died there was not much of a choice left for him. Hence the apology to believers when he appeared again on earth.

Chili

In all fairness to you must I confess that I did not read the article.

Oh but Mary is the perfection of mortal beauty and can appear to the faithful in the likeness of their own image of mortal beauty. Notice that we have a blond, a brunette, a Mexican, a Japanese (I hope), and there seems to be one for every city in Europe. Really prolific, I would say . . . which I cannot say about you.

I hope that is not an insult but just an observation I made.

MortalWombat

Does that mean that this boy will never go to heaven?

Chili

Yes it does because the alternate identity has been removed, shall we say, if that is what they removed. The flip side of this is that it will never be a problem for him because the question with regard to his identity will never appear in his mind. In other words, 'he is' what 'he is' already.

Jehanne

I would ask that we keep the focus on Professor Sheehan’s article. Would you please read it? (To reply to your comment, it seems that the "faithful" are recreating Mary in "their own image"...)

Chili

Yes I will but not right now. Tonight, if only for your pleasure.

So where have you been? Catholics are recreating God in their image every generation and have the saints in heaven that are seated at the right hand of God to do this. Above all, we crowned Mary queen of heaven and that kind of means that whatever she says 'goes' with the only limitation that she doesn't say everything that 'goes.'

Take a good look at the son of God being the fruit of the womb here called Mary but really is the essence of Catholicism as it moves through the ages. In the OT it was called Nazareth of Galilee and we call it Vatican city of Rome to exclude the sins of the faithful that we use to decorate the outside of our Cathedrals (just in case we need them inside). The heart of Mary is equal to the heart of Christ (which is our God in case you missed it) and have an icon to prove this to the faith community. In other words, through Mary to God who is therefore the mediatrix of all graces.