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Old 03-12-2005, 11:02 PM   #1
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I'd really like to know if this is an accurate translation of the hieroglyphics at the Temple of Amen in Luxor. If there are any Egyptologists who can confirm this translation it would be much appreciated.




Annunciation: In the first panel, Thoth ("Gabriel") hails Mut-em-ua ("Mother of One"), informing her she will bear a son (Amenhotep) in the character of Horus, the divine child.

Conception: In the second panel, Kneph ("the Holy Spirit") descends & assisted by Hathor, impregnates the virgin by holding the "ankh", symbol of life, to her mouth.

Birth: In the the third panel, Mut-em-ua, is seated on a birthing stool; a nurse holds the newborn child.

Adoration: Below, the child is enthroned and receives gifts from three kneeling human figures.
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Well, by golly, now I believe. That was the Virgin birth and the Egyptians already knew about it. Guess I better go to church tomorrow and do Hajaella or how ever that is spelled, damn, how did Gabrielle get to Egypt before he was born?

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LOL, I think that the website was inferring that the nativity in the bible was plagiarized from Egypt.
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See the article by Richard Carrier at
http://www.frontline-apologetics.com...nscription.htm

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See the article by Richard Carrier at
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The mistake Carrier makes is that he first accepts the story as presented and then begins to destroy it. I would rather see him accept the story as given and explain the reality for which the words are metaphor.

If the story exists prior to it's retelling in the myth it is wrong to assume that the story was original to the Egyptians. Next, if the story pre-exists the myth it is also wrong to place value on the physical aspects that are used to present the story. In this sense is the excitement of the queen when she "'exclaims amazement at "how large" Amun's "organ of love" is, and she is "jubilant" when he thrusts it into her no different than the jubilant proclamation of Mary in Luke after she had received from the Lord.

Along this same train of thought is it also wrong to assign a material cause to the Immaculate Conception of Mary which as a metaphor has nothing to do with the grandmother of Jesus, I would say.
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