Magdlyn

Yes, Pharisee probably means Parsee, or Persian.

offa

Magdlyn


Yes, Pharisee probably means Parsee, or Persian.



Wow, I like your train of thought! I have a "thought" I call
"Pesher", a.k.a, "pesharim". Pesher is telling a story to two
audiences, the knowing and the unknowing (fundies, like this
board).


A pesher (probably unknowingly) is our president "Gaius". He said,
"according to British Intelligence Saddam was ...".

The truth is that "According to American Intelligence this is false
info". Gaius gets off the hook because he spoke the truth (which was
untrue). The moral of the story is ... truth is often fiction. He
spoke a lie which was the truth.

Let me tell you a pesher.

For about fifty years there was a park in Castalia called the "Blue
Hole". It closed down (for the public) about twenty years ago. It
became a resort for the super-rich. The local school was (is)
Margaretta. The joke of olden days was, "What do the girls of
Margaretta have that no other girls in the whole world have?"

The Answer, "A Blue Hole".

Now, today, the girls now graduating from Margaretta have no
association with the "Castalia Blue Hole". So, a joke told twenty
years ago falls on deaf ears.

There are many of us today that get the joke but fifty years from now
only a trivia buff would get it. A hundred years from now it will be
obsolete.

In order to understand what is written is now impossible because that
knowledge has been destroyed. Scholars of today are ignoramuses, i.e.,
they don't know shit!

I (Offa) don't know shit, however, I encourage you to follow your train of
thought.


thanks,
Offa

Magdlyn

That is why I find the Bible myths interesting. When it is demanded by God they put a "sea" in the Temple of YHWH, you go what? Why?

Then you learn about the Chaldean story from extra-biblical soures, how El destroyed Mot in the primeval Sea.

Later, Job refers to God destroying the Leviathan. What? That wasn't in Genesis!

Again a myth from another culture, just briefly mentioned with no context.



On the contrary, scholars dig up this other stuff to put the bible myths in context. Some knowledge has been lost or purposely destroyed, but thankfully a lot is still available to us if we dig a little. With Internet and amazon, it's pretty easy.

dado

at least in Jewish circles it is generally understood "pharisee" comes from "perusim/perushim" - "those who are separated". Tannaim - aramaic title for pre-Mishna proto-rabbinical class - referred to themselves in hebrew (in writing, even) as "perushim". those contemperaneous with Sadducees referred to them as "students of Tzadok", so that naming link seems pretty well established as well.

offa

My apologies, I do not want to convey a bad example. And,sir/ma'am, if I offended you, I beg your forgiveness. Maybe, in the near future, I will pick this thread up again. I am the only one I know on this board who believes Jesus was a true historical character.

Offa

BTW, I am not a scholar. I dread tomorrow because I have so much physical labor to do. But, I love it ... just dread it. I would rather drink beer all day.