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Old 04-08-2001, 11:06 AM   #1
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Question Did "they" find Noah's Ark?

I recall hearing a LONG time ago that they (I don't know who "they" are, but anyways) supposedly found Noah's Ark in like Turkey or something. I was just wondering if anyone knows anything about this, because I was just a little kid when I heard about it. I had forgotten about hearing this until the other day, but I don't know if I actually heard it somewhere, or if I just made it up or something, you know what I mean? Anyway, if anyone knows anything about this, I would be interested in what you have to say. Thanks.
 
Old 04-08-2001, 11:50 AM   #2
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The most that's been "found" is a few scraps of wood and some vague pictures. Someone even pulled off a Noah's Ark hoax that completely suckered some Ark searchers.

For more, check out this nice link:

http://www.skepdic.com/noahsark.html

And on that hoax:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/ark-hoax/jammal.html
 
Old 04-08-2001, 01:48 PM   #3
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jenni:
I recall hearing a LONG time ago that they (I don't know who "they" are, but anyways) supposedly found Noah's Ark in like Turkey or something. I was just wondering if anyone knows anything about this, because I was just a little kid when I heard about it. I had forgotten about hearing this until the other day, but I don't know if I actually heard it somewhere, or if I just made it up or something, you know what I mean? Anyway, if anyone knows anything about this, I would be interested in what you have to say. Thanks.</font>
"They" need to prove that Noah existed as a historical person BEFORE "they" start looking for the biblical ark.

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Old 04-08-2001, 02:27 PM   #4
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I haven't got a website to hand, but I think there is an unusual rock formation on Mt Ararat, which (if you squint) looks a bit like a large boat.

Unfortunatly it's made of rock, not wood. That doesn't stop true believers claiming it is Noah's Ark.

It is plausible that the legend of the Ark landing on Ararat was suggested by the presence of this unusual rock formation.

The story of a global flood is, of course, too silly to be worth even considering. tutornm recently posted a (partial) list of reasons why over on evolution/creation.
 
Old 04-09-2001, 08:50 AM   #5
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rodahi:
"They" need to prove that Noah existed as a historical person BEFORE "they" start looking for the biblical ark.

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Can you prove the existence of every single person in ancient times? If I told you there was another prophet before Noah named Yaneeshi, would you believe me? If you say no, well how would you know that he didn't exist?
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TrueThinker:
Can you prove the existence of every single person in ancient times? If I told you there was another prophet before Noah named Yaneeshi, would you believe me? If you say no, well how would you know that he didn't exist? </font>
We wouldn't know. But since there is no evidence that he did exist, there's no reason for us to believe you.

So what's your point?

 
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"They" need to prove that Noah existed as a historical person BEFORE "they" start looking for the biblical ark.
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Truethinker: Can you prove the existence of every single person in ancient times?

I don't have to prove anything. I don't claim the existence of anyone. Those who claim that Noah existed and that he built an ark have the obligation of demonstrating the existence of Noah and the ark of literature.

Truethinker: If I told you there was another prophet before Noah named Yaneeshi, would you believe me?

Any particular reason why I should?

Truethinker: If you say no, well how would you know that he didn't exist?

I have never said Noah didn't exist. I have said his existence has not been demonstrated.

rodahi

 
Old 04-09-2001, 01:21 PM   #8
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rodahi:
"They" need to prove that Noah existed as a historical person BEFORE "they" start looking for the biblical ark.

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Not that I think that there is an ark to be found, but wouldn't looking for the ark correspond with your demand that they "prove" that Noah existed as a historical person?
 
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Feiler, not unlike Twain, brings a sharp sense of humor to the whole endeavor. "Almost since the Bible first appeared, stories of sightings of Noah's ark have been a staple of Near Eastern lore," he points out, "making it, in effect, the world's first UFO."
Even when he appears to concede the possibility that the biblical text is literally true, Feiler points out the awkward facts that suggest otherwise: The bottom deck of the ark, for example, must have been empty "because, according to zoologists at the San Diego Zoo, during their year aboard the ark, the animals would have generated 800 tons of manure." </font>

from a review by Jonathan Kirsh of WALKING THE BIBLE A Journey by Land Through the Five Books of Moses By Bruce Feiler
http://www.latimes.com/news/state/20...000029709.html
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Originally posted by rodahi:
"They" need to prove that Noah existed as a historical person BEFORE "they" start looking for the biblical ark.
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Layman: Not that I think that there is an ark to be found, but wouldn't looking for the ark correspond with your demand that they "prove" that Noah existed as a historical person?

Demonstrating the existence of an ark would not demonstrate the existence of Noah. It would merely indicate that a large boat exists.

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