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mountainman · 08-13-2013, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by aa5874

See http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmes...=&Pgnu=&recnu=

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"The Most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews, and heretics, and schismatics, can ever be partakers of eternal life, but that they are to go into the eternal fire "which was prepared for the devil, and his angels," (Mt. 25:41) unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this Ecclesiastical Body, that only those remaining within this unity can profit from the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and that they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, almsdeeds, and other works of Christian piety and duties of a Christian soldier.

No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved unless they abide within the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church." (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441) "

Who would argue that Jesus was a mere man or merely Divine in the time of Pope Eugene?

People today, even Ehrman, seem not understand that the historical Jesus argument, that Jesus was mere man, was not entertained at least up to the 15th century by the Roman Church.

You can see that the dual nature - human and divine - was argued for a long time by the church and still is.

The difficulty is separating Clark Kent and Superman sides of the Jesus creature.

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Huon · 08-13-2013, 06:27 AM

Here is an undisputed example of a myth :

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Heracles was the son of Zeus and Alcmene. Alcmene was married with Amphitryon. During Amphitryon's expedition against the pirates of the island of Taphos, Zeus visited Alcmene disguised as Amphitryon. Extending one night into three, Zeus slept with Alcmene, his great-granddaughter, thereby conceiving Heracles. When Amphitryon finally returned to Thebes, Alcmene told him that he had come the night before and slept with her. Amphitryon learned from Tiresias what Zeus had done. Alcmene gave birth to two twin brothers, Hercules, son of Zeus, and Iphicles, son of Amphitryon.

Here is another example of history. Everybody will see easily that this is not mythology. There are no twins.

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Yeshua was the son of Yahweh and Miriam. Miriam was married with Joseph. Miriam gave birth to Yeshua, son of Yahweh, and some other children, children of Joseph.

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