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Luke did mention Paul, but it would have been anti-Pauline to say that Paul was the first to see Jesus or preach resurrection. He represented himself as the last.
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gLuke was falsely attributed to some character called Luke of whom NOTHING is known in the Canon. It cannot ever be overlooked that the NT Canon is riddled with forgeries or falsely attributed authors in order to mis-represent the history of the Jesus cult. |
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Is it okay to ask if this Simon of Samaria is a historic person?
is there consensus that he really existed and the words attributed to him? oops he is more known using this name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Magus |
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The Pauline writings are most likely not credible.
Although there are 13 letters under the name of Paul virtually NONE of the added details about Jesus and himself are corroborated. This is most astonishing. 1. In Galatians 1, the Pauline writer claimed he went to Arabia and after 3 years returned to Damascus--No writer in the Canon corroborates Paul. 2. In Galatians 1, the Pauline writer claimed he did not confer with Flesh and Blood when he was called to preach--the author of Acts denies the veracity of Paul and claimed Ananias and disciples in Damascus did confer with Paul. 3. In Galatians 1, the Pauline writer claimed he ONLY met the Apostles Peter and James in Jerusalem--the veracity of Paul is denied by Acts--Paul met ALL the disciples in Jerusalem. 4. In Galatians 1, the Pauline writer claimed he met an Apostle, James the Lord's brother in Jerusalem--No such apostle is mentioned anywhere in the ENTIRE Canon. 5. In Galatians 2, the Pauline writer claimed he went to Jerusalem after 14 years but again, the authior of Acts denies the veracity of Paul. The author of Acts claimed Paul was in and out of Jerusalem. 6. In Galatians 2, the Pauline writer claimed or implied he was commissioned by the resurrected Jesus to preach to the uncircumcised just like Peter was to the circumcised --the veracity of the Pauline writer cannot be granted--even if Jesus did live he could NOT have commissioned Peter AFTER Jesus himself was dead. It is clear to me that the Pauline writings are not credible and were planted by some deceptive means. Up to the mid 2nd century and later, Apologetic writers showed that the Jesus cult was developed without a ten word phrase from the Pauline letters and without attending a Pauline Church or cult. The Pauline letters are the Flagship of Fraud, Forgery and Fiction. |
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I assume that you are not a believer. Am I right in assuming that? Many believe that and more; they are the faithful servants of many different gods. Are we here to examine what their texts appear to say or to sing our own personal credo? Is Paul credible? Are Mohamed, Buddha, Moses... credible? |
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Are you willing to answer the question?
Don't worry. Paul was a false witness. 1 Corinthians 15:15 Quote:
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The never ending controversy about Paul is continuing, going on and on, as Sheshbazzar says. |
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