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If you love ad hominem, who am I to stop you?
Bart Ehrman has written several books and articles that are at least as good in their critical approach as the books written by any historians whose conclusions you like. If this one book of his offends you enough to go on a crusade against his bona fides, so be it. |
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Carrier has admitted that Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist?" is probably the worst book for the HJ argument. Carrier claimed "it is filled with factual errors, logical fallacies, and badly worded arguments". Other scholars, including Doherty, Acharya S, Price, his own peers, have written articles exposing the fallacies of Ehrman in "Did Jesus Exist?" |
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But the book in question is the latest; and attempts to assert something that virtually counters a few of those previous books, with very poor arguments; so is the most controversial. It quickly spurned several authors to collective write a rebutal - Bart Ehrman and the Quest of the Historical Jesus of Nazareth |
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Peter Kirby does not understand what ad hominem reasoning is. The discussion here is about how going to pastor school trains you to be a pastor, not a historian, and how there is an actual difference, which perhaps Peter Kirby does not comprehend. Are you a pastor, Peter Kirby?
We do not ask a dentist to fix a car, and nor should we ask a pastor for reliable information about history. If we do talk to pastors about history, we will find the information is corrupted by mumbo jumbo such as Erhman's Wheaton College mission statement with its assertions of the existence of Satan, evil powers, and that Jesus was true God and true man. Erhman's Did Jesus Exist? is an exercise in homiletic politics, and is not intended to be read. Rather, it is a magic talisman that ignorant evangelists can wave at rationalists to ward off discussion. If Ehrman chose to be trained at institutions that placed faith above reason, it is not unreasonable to expect the views he formed during his training might inform his books. Did Jesus Exist confirms that supposition. Quote:
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