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TedM · 06-30-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Grog

Ted,

I confess to being confused. While I do agree that aa's style of argumentation is not always effective (but I have learned a lot from him), it appears you are arguing that it is possible that the human Jesus had a human mother, but no human father.

I'm not. I'm simply arguing that to dismiss the HJ position simply because writings 2000 years ago reflected a belief that Jesus had no human father is asinine.

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What is your source that he had a human mother named Mary, by the way?

Are you trying to trap me? This isn't rocket science, or the playground.

aa5874 · 06-30-2013, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Grog

Ted,

I confess to being confused. While I do agree that aa's style of argumentation is not always effective (but I have learned a lot from him), it appears you are arguing that it is possible that the human Jesus had a human mother, but no human father.

What is your source that he had a human mother named Mary, by the way?

My style of argumentation must have been effective once you have learned a lot from me..

Now, TedM's argumentation is virtually worthless. He claims Jesus had a mother but do not want to discuss his documented father--a Holy Ghost.

The very sources in the Canon which claimed Mary was the mother of Jesus stated that Jesus was born AFTER she was made pregnant by a Ghost or was "overshadowed" by a Spirit.

Jesus was NOT a human being in the Canon.

In gJohn 1, we have MORE details of Jesus.

Jesus was the Logos--God the Creator who made heaven and earth and was BEFORE anything was made.

John 1

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1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made .

TedM CANNOT ever discuss the father of Jesus.

TedM cannot admit that it is documented and publicly circulated in the Roman Empire for over a thousand years that Jesus, God and the Holy Ghost are ONE and the same.

TedM · 06-30-2013, 08:09 PM

aa, I just don't understand why you think the "non-father" issue is significant to the HJ position. I've opened a thread on this, since it is completely off topic here.

aa5874 · 06-30-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TedM

aa, I just don't understand why you think the "non-father" issue is significant to the HJ position. I've opened a thread on this, since it is completely off topic here.

I don't know why you are claiming Jesus had a mother and refuse to discuss that Christians argued that he had no human father.

It is wholly absurd for you to claim in this thread that Jesus had a mother and must be human and then turn around and suggest it is off topic to discuss his father.

TedM · 06-30-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aa5874

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Originally Posted by TedM

aa, I just don't understand why you think the "non-father" issue is significant to the HJ position. I've opened a thread on this, since it is completely off topic here.

I don't know why you are claiming Jesus had a mother and refuse to discuss that Christians argued that he had no human father.

It is wholly absurd for you to claim in this thread that Jesus had a mother and must be human and then turn around and suggest it is off topic to discuss his father.

All of it is off-topic. See the new thread.

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06-30-2013, 08:09 PM	#43
TedM Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 3,070	aa, I just don't understand why you think the "non-father" issue is significant to the HJ position. I've opened a thread on this, since it is completely off topic here.

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