Tom Verenna

I take no pleasure in it. Tabor is someone I still consider a friend; but I can't allow the things he says to go unchallenged either.

aa5874

Perhaps Stephan huller's thread can now be trashed.

stephan huller

The latest. It seem Puech is distancing himself from the disaster:

http://zwingliusredivivus.wordpress....lpiot-ossuary/

Toto

Tabor blog

Toto

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Minimalist

Scholars should be used to proposing and defending their ideas and still respecting each other. That's how one knows that Jacobovici does not belong in the club. He files lawsuits to stifle the opposition as Mr. Joe Zias can testify.

Sabine Grant

Simcha's description of the actual event :

then several comments in the blog nit picking over the use of the term "festival". Calling it deceptive. I beg to differ as Cannes is my hometown and I am rather familiar with the variety of international events held in Cannes and how they are referred to. I am also familiar with the Comité International des Festivals du Film Touristique and their listed members,

http://www.cifft.com/members.aspx

among them, the Cannes Corporate Media & TV Awards.

Further,

http://www.mediakwest.com/index.php/...tv-awards.html

to be noted the recognition that the CCMTA is a festival. I can link to other sources if necessary.

It appears to me that it was inferred to Stephan's friend that he meant to be deceptive as he introduced his paragraph with " the city famously known for their feature film festival" From that inference, you concluded he was claiming to have received an award from The International Film Festival. Which he did not make such claim.

It was clear to me that his mention of "Cannes, the city famously known for their feature film festival" was to remind the reader why Cannes is such a renown city hosting prestigious events(such as the famous feature film festival) which indeed many of them are known as festivals to include the correctness of his using the term "festival" as he states when describing the CCMTA :

" The festival is known for its prestigious participants, innovative and qualitative works, prominent Jury members (Oscar and Emmy winners), and producers from around the world".

On that specific "charge" of deception, it was necessary for me to add my 2 Euro Centimes.

stephan huller

I know what you are saying. I am of two minds on this issue. I don't agree with Simcha's assessment of the evidence with respect to this tomb. I don't think there was a tomb of Jesus anywhere in the world at any time. I have talked to him at length about Jesus and the Bible and recognize that we have two completely different opinions about almost everything.

But there is this other side to the controversy - and then is the question about whether Simcha has the right to interpret evidence the way he sees fit and in the process develop projects for television that executives at the networks think will drive eyes to the screen to sell advertisements.

I can't quite put my finger on it sometimes but there is this grey area which I think these Bibliobloggers cross on many occasions. It is like cyber-bullying. I am not claiming that Simcha's conclusions are reasonable or that his theory about Jesus being buried in a family tomb would get published in a peer reviewed journal. The question is simply is the Bible so sacred that we should have special rules about what bullshit gets on TV.

When Mark Goodacre joins Mark Burnett as a consultant on a gratuitously commercial enterprise, one that makes the Devil look like Obama among other deliberate misrepresentations - that's somehow not an integrity issue. But when Simcha takes a tomb that has nothing to do with Jesus the Lord and Savior of mankind and says that it is his burial tomb - that is an outrage and should serve as a justification to destroy his ability to make entertaining television about the Bible.

stephan huller

And perhaps that is it the point - I just had a thought after calling someone in Addis Ababa - many of these bibliobloggers go beyond merely laughing at the stupidity of this foolish theory into the realm of offering up scholars as the policemen of all false claims about the Bible. But who decides who gets prosecuted? Who decides what 'untruths' get roughed up? I get the feeling that what these guys are really going after is the ability to determine what gets on the air - even to become producers, consultants at the very same networks.

I say having Mark Burnett produce one brand of bullshit and Simcha another let's everything get balanced out in the end.

There is absolutely no way to make entertaining television about the Bible without pandering to the dummies. It's just a fact of life. That's why I think so much of the attack against religion that goes on at this site is misguided. Yes it's true, mass religion is crude, vulgar and stupid, but 'mass atheism' with take on the same vulgarity and stupidity when it becomes diffused through the stupid ignorant masses. The masses are just vulgar and stupid.

stephan huller

And since no one else is saying anything - and I'm stuck here waiting at the dentist -there is this cruelty that exists in white people which is directed against individual odd balls who don't conform and are exposed and vulnerable because they are on their own. These Anglo-Saxon types relish hunting down these non-conformists and mauling them in a pack. A continuation of a playground mentality.

I think historically speaking this vicious conformity led to the British Empire and great military achievements, but who wouldn't rather be Italian?