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outhouse · 07-07-2013, 12:03 PM

Were talking about a group of people that thought about religious context less, then many other cultures.

These guys were your typical drunks and stoners, and you all know how religious most of them are.

These guy smet to drink beer and pubs is where it took place. To help recruit people they would hold what amounts to keg parties just to get people to show up.

They didnt use religion to get people going anywhere near as much as booze.

You can read into it what you want, and there were religious aspects, but it smy opinion they were through drunk glasses

Iskander · 07-07-2013, 02:02 PM

John Locke and the American Revolution:

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Thomas Jefferson ranked Locke, along with Locke’s compatriot Algernon Sidney, as the most important thinkers on liberty. Locke helped inspire Thomas Paine’s radical ideas about revolution. Locke fired up George Mason. From Locke, James Madison drew his most fundamental principles of liberty and government. Locke’s writings were part of Benjamin Franklin’s self-education, and John Adams believed that both girls and boys should learn about Locke. The French philosopher Voltaire called Locke “the man of the greatest wisdom. What he has not seen clearly, I despair of ever seeing.”

http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detai...#ixzz2YOZHzDHA

Jaybees · 07-07-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by James The Least

"Bible critics such as Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson" represented the religious views of about .0001% of the population. John Wesley, John Calvin, and Jonathan Edwards were the real representatives of America's religious soul. The Bible was 100% true, historical, and relevant to the present time, Americans thought, and a large portion of the population still thinks that's true. It follows that anything Americans did, whether it was killing troops in war or enslaving Africans, God approved of it.

That .0001% went on, a few years later, to write the laws of the new land in which the only hint of god was in the customary date at the end of the document. The rest of those laws make absolutely no mention of god, or anything remotely related to god except to say that NO religious tests could be made for holding office. That hardly squares with a nation supposedly aligning itself with Wesley, Calvin, Edwards, or the other pious fanatics of that and earlier generations. NO Sharia, Xtian or religious law was imposed at that time,

Toto · 07-11-2013, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by outhouse

Were talking about a group of people that thought about religious context less, then many other cultures.

These guys were your typical drunks and stoners, and you all know how religious most of them are.

Everyone was drunk back then, and lots of drunks see god.

Clivedurdle · 07-11-2013, 03:59 AM

http://libcom.org/files/[Christo...ookos.org).pdf

Oh no, it was the radicals we exported wot done it!

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07-07-2013, 12:03 PM	#11
outhouse Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Auburn ca Posts: 4,269	Were talking about a group of people that thought about religious context less, then many other cultures. These guys were your typical drunks and stoners, and you all know how religious most of them are. These guy smet to drink beer and pubs is where it took place. To help recruit people they would hold what amounts to keg parties just to get people to show up. They didnt use religion to get people going anywhere near as much as booze. You can read into it what you want, and there were religious aspects, but it smy opinion they were through drunk glasses

07-11-2013, 03:59 AM	#15
Clivedurdle Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 16,024	http://libcom.org/files/[Christo...ookos.org).pdf Oh no, it was the radicals we exported wot done it!

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