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Everyone has certainly heard of the famous Bishop Cardinal Emile Lustiger of Paris, who converted to Catholicism after the War after being cared for in a convent in Poland. The exact circumstances of his situation are never clear as far as I know.
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There was religious discrimination, but Christian Jews became Christian people like any other. Were my ancestors Jewish? It is impossible to know since for generations my ancestors have identified themselves as belonging to a Christian society Ethnically Jewish is such an unpleasant silly thing to say! |
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The Jews did not practice the Blasphemy and the Law-Breaking religion CALLED Christianity. Eusebius' Preparation of the Gospel 1 Quote:
The practice of worshiping a Man as a God is UNKNOWN in Judaism. In the very Canon, if you are familiar with the Gospels, Jesus was considered a BLASPHEMER and found to be guilty of Death by the Sanhedrin. John 10:33 KJV Quote:
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The practices and teachings of Christianity are Blasphemy and contrary to the Laws of the Jews. |
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According to me, "the Jews" have never been a monolithic group. Not only was there infighting between the various sects vying for power in Jerusalem, but there were tensions between the Jewish laity from the countryside and the "professional" Jews in Jerusalem. Taking a phrase which criticizes the Pharisees in Jerusalem and claiming (with zero evidence or support) that it "certainly" was not written by Jews is pointless, spurious, and indicative of nothing more than your personal opinion. |
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A few years ago, I had the privilege of editing the English translation of the book Joseph Rabinowitz and the Messianic Movement: The Herzl of Jewish Christianity by Kai Kjaer-Hansen. It is a fascinating account of a Russian Jew who, during a trip to the Holy Land, became convinced that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah and returned to found a congregation of Jewish Believers in Jesus in the city of Kishinev. Another interesting resource is the book Nazarene Jewish Christianity (or via: amazon.co.uk) by Dr. Ray Pritz, which examines the oldest known sect of Jewish believers in Jesus as Messiah, a group called the Nazarenes, who lived in Judea until the 4th century CE. This very Jewish sect of Jesus-believers persisted alongside both Gentile Christianity and Rabbinic Judaism for over 300 years. It has never been mainstream, but there is a long tradition of Jews who have accepted the core teaching of Christianity (Jesus is Messiah, sacrificed for the sins of the world) without giving up their Jewishness or adherence to Jewish Law. For the most part, these Jews have been despised by Rabbinic Jews and Mainstream Christians alike. |
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You have exposed that you do not understand the Pauline Corpus.
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I'm curious, what are the main 1 or 2 reasons that the Church of Latter Day Saints took hold amongst 19th century NW New Yorkers? My guess is the reasons are fairly similar. |
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