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Old 09-30-2013, 01:49 PM   #31
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Yeah, what have the Romans ever done for us?
The aqueduct?
And the their advanced road system.
Numerals?
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Old 10-01-2013, 03:23 AM   #32
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Hi Steve bnk,

When you put it that way, it doesn't sound real at all.

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An all powerful being creates the universe and selects Jews as his special race. God impregnates a human with his offspring to deal with taxation in Judea. Said offspring is tortured and crucified

Stop it Bill..you are killing me. :hysterical:
The supernatural aspects to us skeptics is not real.

But the geopolitics portrayed in the gospels is plausible. The regional Jews do not appear to have been a monolithic block. Influence pedaling and corruption are probably as old as human civilization in one form or another.

A disaffected belligerent wandering Jewish cleric who went into the temple causing a commotion is certainly plausible. Muslims today are blowing up each others mosques.

Martin Luther risked his life. He opposedthe idea of expiation of sin by paying money to the RCC.

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'...Martin Luther OSA (German: [ˈmaɐ̯tiːn ˈlʊtɐ] ( listen); 10 November 1483 – 18 February 1546) was a German monk, Catholic priest, professor of theology and seminal figure of a reform movement in 16th century Christianity, subsequently known as the Protestant Reformation.[1] He strongly disputed the claim that freedom from God's punishment for sin could be purchased with money. He confronted indulgence salesman Johann Tetzel, a Dominican friar, with his Ninety-Five Theses in 1517. His refusal to retract all of his writings at the demand of Pope Leo X in 1520 and the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V at the Diet of Worms in 1521 resulted in his excommunication by the Pope and condemnation as an outlaw by the Emperor...'


Gandhi was assassinated.

To me the idea that the Jewish temple elite could manage to have a rabble rouser executed by Rome does not seem all that far fetched. Such a person may not have rated mention in Roman recordings. One of many executions

I liken the conservative Jews of New Testament times to Saudi Arabia. Harsh. Church and state are one, and you did not mess with it. The RCC had considerable direct politcal power til the late 1800s.
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Beautiful Candida on Bill O'Reilly

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Beautiful Candida on Bill O'Reilly

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Jesus's direct commandment to sell and give to the poor according to O'Reilly was a parable. He is dead wrong but I can only assume that any parable or play on words by Jesus are to be ignored by Christians.
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It's so silly. He claims no one ever fulfilled Jesus's commandment here. No one. Yeah that's why there are monasteries.
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And the their advanced road system.
Numerals?

Mathmatics, sure
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Candida Moss as a guest on Bill O.

At the very end, like a gentleman, Bill O'Reilly gives Candida Moss the last word. And she zings him a good one.
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Imagine what strides we could make at the forum if we could just get Bill O'Reilly to interview aa or Pete
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Imagine what strides we could make if a rational person like Candida Moss could do a prolonged interview/interrogation of Bill focusing on truth.
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Is Bill O'Reilly an historian? Who are his peers?
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