Sheshbazzar

Which says nothing for why 600,000 Israelite 'warriors' would have to hide from an total population of 30,000 Philistines.

Duvduv

If you really want to know the answers, go read the commentaries. You don't think no one else thought of your questions in the last 3000 years and provided no answers, do you? Go read the Me` am Loez.
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Sheshbazzar

None of the the commentators were there either.

Cheerful Charlie

You mean go interpret the commentaries, but we are not allowed to interpret anything you say. Sorry, I have no interest in ignorant commentaries wrrtten by non-experts, apologisms made long after the facts. We have the facts on the ground and bible claims that do not match archaeological facts on the ground.

Numbers 2
5 And those that do pitch next unto him shall be the tribe of Issachar: and Nethaneel the son of Zuar shall be captain of the children of Issachar.

6 And his host, and those that were numbered thereof, were fifty and four thousand and four hundred.

7 Then the tribe of Zebulun: and Eliab the son of Helon shall be captain of the children of Zebulun.

8 And his host, and those that were numbered thereof, were fifty and seven thousand and four hundred.

9 All that were numbered in the camp of Judah were an hundred thousand and fourscore thousand and six thousand and four hundred, throughout their armies. These shall first set forth.

10 On the south side shall be the standard of the camp of Reuben according to their armies: and the captain of the children of Reuben shall be Elizur the son of Shedeur.

And so on and so on. So after they defeat the Canaanites they settle where?
Where do we see cities that can hold vast numbers of Israelites popping up suddenly?
Not in the hill top settlements! Not in the large ruined cities! Where!?

Numbers 2
31 All they that were numbered in the camp of Dan were an hundred thousand and fifty and seven thousand and six hundred. They shall go hindmost with their standards.

32 These are those which were numbered of the children of Israel by the house of their fathers: all those that were numbered of the camps throughout their hosts were six hundred thousand and three thousand and five hundred and fifty.

Where are the archaeological evidences of all these new invaders settling down and creating new cities and towns to hold their numbers!? The new vast farms, vineyards and pasture lands wells and houses to accomodate 2 1/2 million new people in Canaan?
The facts on the ground must reflect the supposed truths of the Torah! The facts do not fit, do they?

Cheerful Charlie

Cheerful Charlie

Bullshit. UTTER AND TOTAL BULLSHIT!

Cheerful Charlie

Cheerful Charlie

The original Book of Jasher mentioned in the OT, long ago was lost. The documents we have by that name are all later works and not the real Book of Jasher. At least five fake Jashers are known, none of them of biblical age.

Cheerful Charlie.

Sheshbazzar

My great great great grandfathers grandmothers second cousins uncle's sister who moved to Amsterdam was named Tootie too

Duvduv

That could be, but then again you are not a known biblical figure.......

Duvduv

My, my......vulgarities (not excluded on the FAQs).....but I am relieved to know you were there, Charlie, so you can provide testimony about Goliath.....

Duvduv

But they were relying on sources. Which are your sources??
If one has to choose between Rashi and Shesh, well........