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Old 07-24-2013, 06:20 PM   #71
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Price is mistaken. The cross is essentially unanimous among historical Jesus scholarship.
The "historical fact" of the cross appears in the archaeological record of the 4th century. See the legend of Helena. That the cross is essentially unanimous among historical Jesus scholarship only goes to show just how much this HJ scholarship is disconnected from the "historical facts".





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How could there be unanimous agreement about the cross among historians when the NT refers to a tree rather than a cross?
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Price is mistaken. The cross is essentially unanimous among historical Jesus scholarship.
The "historical fact" of the cross appears in the archaeological record of the 4th century. See the legend of Helena. That the cross is essentially unanimous among historical Jesus scholarship only goes to show just how much this HJ scholarship is disconnected from the "historical facts".
How could there be unanimous agreement about the cross among historians when the NT refers to a tree rather than a cross?

Holy Hobbits Steve. Good point. Ent shades of gPeter, didn't Tolkien write about walking talking trees?




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How could there be unanimous agreement about the cross among historians when the NT refers to a tree rather than a cross?

Holy Hobbits Steve. Good point. Ent shades of gPeter, didn't Tolkien write about walking talking trees?




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When Nero was burning Christians he tacked them to trees and burnt them like candles. At least that's the impression that I got, though I believe that nothing in the Holy Books should be taken seriously. Any relationship to the truth is entirely coincidental.
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Are both of you truly missing that "cross" in my "cross is essentially unanimous" functions as a euphemism for crucifixion?

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