mountainman

You guys have serious reading and comprehension issues.


Sourced from The Panarion of Epiphanius of Salamis, recent translation.

The First Seven Heresies in the Index of Eighty


In his introductory prelude, in speaking of the "sects" or "heresies" Epiphanius notes:




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stephan huller

Ha ha ha ha ha! Here is the section you cite:
and here is the exact reference:

Come on Pete <edit>

stephan huller

And this is just complete bullshit:

You can't possibly believe this or if you do you should just keep your mouth shut. It is plainly untrue.

mountainman

Why not? Kannengiesser's conclusion may be right but not for the reasons he thinks.





Settle down Huller. You are emotionally not in possession of the historical truth.






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Jeffrey Gibson

My point is that we should not trust you to have interpreted or read this text correctly since your are doing your exegesis of a Greek text on the basis of an English translation of it -- and given your demonstrable penchant for misreading even the English translations of texts you site and of skewing your "evidence" towards the confirmation of your thesis, nothing you say about this text should be taken as true or valid unless you can show us that your reading of it is supported by the Greek original.

Jeffrey

Jeffrey Gibson

But you said Eusebius did:

In the FWIW department, here is the Greek text of Epiphanius commentary on "Platonists" a tralsation of which has been provided by SH,

I can find no reference to "HERESIOLOGICAL schools of Christian bishops" there.

Have I missed something?

Jeffrey

Jeffrey Gibson

That Arius followed Plotinus no more makes him a pagan than Justin or Augustine or Philo following and using Plato makes them pagans.

Jeffrey

Chili

There is no -ism about Plato just as there is no -ism about Christ. Both are gnostic as en-ergeia made know in time = with presence of soul that can have equals but not followers in -ism that he called 'look-alikes' as deprived from the privation they see.

First cause is first but also ends with 'first cause' that needs 'second cause' to be made known where Lord God is second, period, amen, with no more to say as prior to reason itself that is awakened in time by 'third cause' to add intelligince as outsider by way of design where now religion comes in to play.

This is where Judaism is/was waiting for second cause to make manifest with pre-sense as both God and Lord God instead of non-sense as look-alikes worshiping one 'out there' someplace in ab-sense within.

aa5874

I find that you are actively operating under a double standard.

You yourself have written articles where you ARGUE AGAINST Scholars about Greek Texts and publicly admit your understanding is NOT in keeping with Scholars.

See http://harrystrumancitycollegeschica...JeffreyBGibson

Rebuke of the Disciples Mark 8.14-21 by Jeffrey Gibson.

In another article, again, you argue AGAINST Scholars understanding of Greek Texts and even name some of them.

Matthew 6:9-13//Luke 11:2-4: an eschatological prayer? by Jeffrey Gibson

You are publicly doing the very same thing that you accuse mountainman of. Your understanding of Greek Texts in Matthew, Mark and Luke is NOT in keeping with Scholars.

Please, you are not making much sense now.

Your attacks on mountainman are completely unfair and should cease immediately because you are actively engaged in arguments which are ADMITTEDLY NOT in keeping with and contrary to Scholars like A Harnack, M.D Goulder, S. Van Tilborg, H Taussig, J.D Crossan and others.

It is time for your double standard to stop without delay.

It is wholly absurd and illogical that is is reasonable for you to argue against Scholars yet ridicule mountainman who is following your footsteps.

You and mountainman are doing the very same thing--arguing against Scholars understanding of Texts--only that you do it with Greek texts and he with English.

I cannot accept any more of your double standards.

mountainman

In the above I did not cite Eusebius.

I cited Epiphanius.

Spin made a mistake.

Huller made a mistake.

Jeffrey made a mistake.

People make mistakes.

No need to get upset.




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