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PhilosopherJay · 08-02-2013, 12:10 PM

Thank you, Pete,

I shall certainly add this important supporting evidence. I don't see how the skeptics can deny the importance of having the hammer's wood found barely 15,000 kilometers from a riding academy named "Valhalla". What are the odds of that? This establishes a firm and definite link from my wood to Thor's Hammer. In the same way finding a piece of wood in a box with a cross on it establishes the wood as coming from the cross that Jesus was crucified upon.

Warmly,

Jay

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Hi Philosopher Jay,

When you decide to release this discovery to the world perhaps you may require an Australian agent. One of my qualifications in this matter is very close geographical proximity to the Valhalla Horse Riding stud, who have been looking after the earthly needs of the Viking Gods horses while the gods travel the heavens.

Best wishes.

εὐδαιμονία | eudaimonia

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I woke up this morning to read about this amazing discovery, "A piece of Jesus' cross? Relics unearthed in Turkey"

I too have made an equally significant discovery which I will shortly reveal to the world. I have discovered a piece of wood from the hammer of Thor when he descended from Asgard and became Dr. Blake.

Warmly,

Jay Raskin

Bronzeage · 08-02-2013, 12:24 PM

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During the Crusades, there was a thriving business in Holy Relics.

Enough pieces of the true cross were sold to Europeans to have crucified a hundred Christs.

Aren't portions of Jesus' foreskin still in some of the relic collections in Europe? Feathers from the Holy Ghost? Drops of milk from Mary's breast?

All of those relics can be found on display in the Barcelona Museum of the Gullible.

Toto · 08-02-2013, 01:04 PM

Holy_Prepuce

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Foreskin relics began appearing in Europe during the Middle Ages. The earliest recorded sighting came on December 25, 800, when Charlemagne gave it to Pope Leo III when the latter crowned the former Emperor. Charlemagne claimed that it had been brought to him by an angel while he prayed at the Holy Sepulchre, although a more prosaic report says it was a wedding gift from the Byzantine Empress Irene. The Pope placed it into the Sancta Sanctorum in the Lateran basilica in Rome with other relics.^[3] Its authenticity was later considered to be confirmed by a vision of Saint Bridget of Sweden.^[4] The foreskin was then looted during the Sack of Rome in 1527. The German soldier who stole it was captured in the village of Calcata, 47 km north of Rome, later the same year. Thrown into prison, he hid the jeweled reliquary in his cell, where it remained until its rediscovery in 1557. Many miracles (freak storms and perfumed fog overwhelming the village) are claimed to have followed.^[5] Housed in Calcata, it was venerated from that time onwards, with the Church approving the authenticity by offering a ten-year indulgence to pilgrims.[3] Pilgrims, nuns and monks flocked to the church. "Calcata was a must-see destination on the pilgrimage map." The foreskin was reported stolen by a local priest in 1983.^[5]

According to the author David Farley, "Depending on what you read, there were eight, twelve, fourteen, or even 18 different holy foreskins in various European towns during the Middle Ages."[6] In addition to the Holy Foreskin of Rome (later Calcata), other claimants included the Cathedral of Le Puy-en-Velay, Santiago de Compostela, the city of Antwerp, Coulombs in the diocese of Chartres, France as well as Chartres itself, and churches in Besançon, Newport[citation needed], Metz, Hildesheim, Charroux, Conques, Langres, Fécamp, Stoke-on-Trent[citation needed], Calcata, and two in Auvergne.^[6]

What gets me about the Holy Prepuce is that the rational is that this is the only piece of Jesus' body left on earth after the ascension. WHY DIDN'T IT ASCEND WITH HIM??

James Brown · 08-02-2013, 01:26 PM

Heh. Perfumed fog.

Clivedurdle · 08-02-2013, 01:53 PM

Impossible - something funnier than Monty Python?

Imagine the Thompson Holiday Tours...

Diogenes the Cynic · 08-02-2013, 11:49 PM

Well they found a hunk of wood anyway:

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Archaeologists in Turkey believe they have found a small piece of the cross used to crucify Jesus.

It was discovered in a stone chest on the site of seventh-century Balatlar Church in Sinop and tests are now being carried out to try to determine its authenticity.

Legend has it that the cross was discovered in 325 AD and parts were sent to religious leaders around the world and this may explain how the piece ended up in Turkey.

Professor Gülgün Koroglu who headed up the excavation told the Hurriyet Daily News: 'We have found a holy thing in a chest. It is a piece of a cross, and we think it was [part of the cross on which Jesus was crucified]. This stone chest is very important to us. It has a history and is the most important artifact we have unearthed so far.'

I guess if the stone box has crosses carved on it, that must prove it is part of "THE ONE TRUE CROSS."

The fact that this amateur archaeologist would even make reference to the Helena legend is discrediting all by itself, but, hey, since when has verifiability ever mattered to believers.

We're probably about due to find Noah's Ark again pretty soon too, or maybe another freshly crafted artifact from Solomon's Temple.

tupac chopra · 08-03-2013, 12:10 AM

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We're probably about due to find Noah's Ark again pretty soon too, or maybe another freshly crafted artifact from Solomon's Temple.

Those investigators may have jumped the gun, we may still learn it is part of Noah's ark!

yalla · 08-03-2013, 02:34 AM

My favourite, well second favourite actually [1], is the claim by Umberto Ecco's character Sean Connery in 'The Name of the Rose" that a church has the skull of John the Baptist 'as a young man' and it takes his young Christian protégé Adso a few seconds to see the problem.

[1]The multiple churches that claim to have the skull of J the B is my favourite - there are nearly a dozen such skulls around.

Jaybees · 08-03-2013, 08:24 AM

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We're probably about due to find Noah's Ark again pretty soon too, or maybe another freshly crafted artifact from Solomon's Temple.

Those investigators may have jumped the gun, we may still learn it is part of Noah's ark!

There's no reason why it couldn't be both, since it's well known that the Holy Cross was made from portions of the Ark.

SLD · 08-04-2013, 07:11 AM

I wonder how much they will sell pieces of it for? Would buying it help us get to heaven? Order now! Limited supplies!

Plus 1000 years off purgatory for every order you place!

Actually it is an interesting historical find. I wonder how many other small churches here and there had such relics and how they rationalized their authenticity. I know St. Helen, Constantine's mom, allegedly found the cross and gave pieces of it out to important churches. I wonder if there is any truth to that story. It would be quite a find if this wood were dated to the 4th century AD.

SLD

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yalla Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: oz Posts: 1,848	My favourite, well second favourite actually [1], is the claim by Umberto Ecco's character Sean Connery in 'The Name of the Rose" that a church has the skull of John the Baptist 'as a young man' and it takes his young Christian protégé Adso a few seconds to see the problem. [1]The multiple churches that claim to have the skull of J the B is my favourite - there are nearly a dozen such skulls around.

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SLD Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 4,109	I wonder how much they will sell pieces of it for? Would buying it help us get to heaven? Order now! Limited supplies! Plus 1000 years off purgatory for every order you place! Actually it is an interesting historical find. I wonder how many other small churches here and there had such relics and how they rationalized their authenticity. I know St. Helen, Constantine's mom, allegedly found the cross and gave pieces of it out to important churches. I wonder if there is any truth to that story. It would be quite a find if this wood were dated to the 4th century AD. SLD

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