stephan huller

Here is the mother load - http://books.google.com/books?id=cUH...%CF%82&f=false

stephan huller

There is apparently Σωκράτειοι λόγοι mentioned in Plato http://books.google.com/books?id=UyN...%CE%B9&f=false

Philostratus mentions Πλατωνειοι and Χρυσίππειοι (i.e. the famous Stoic) = of or belonging to Chrysippus http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/...0&prior=kai%5C

http://heml.mta.ca/Rigaudon/Views/Si...uoft_0422.html (the transcription is awful)

χρυσίππειος A.of, belonging to Chrysippus, “διαλεκτική” D.L.7.180; “τὰ” X. his writings, Arr.Epict.2.16.34. (here is the English translation - http://books.google.com/books?id=yDd...pus%22&f=false) = 'έπανάγνωθί δμοια τό Χρυσίππειον" apparently Galen uses this term χρυσίππειον too.

II. Chrysippius, a plant named from its discoverer, Plin.HN26.93.

stephan huller

Jiri

I would like to cite some of your stuff on the relationship between Mark and Paul in my book. Do you have a synopsis of your work so far?

stephan huller

I can't find the adjective 'Pauline' in Christian literature but exists in Cassius Dio:

The next year Marcus Crassus and Gnaeus Cornelius were consuls; and the curule aediles, after resigning their office because they had been elected under unfavourable auspices, received it again, contrary to precedent, at another meeting of the assembly. 2 The Basilica of Paulus (στοά ή Παυλειος) was burned and the flames spread from it to the temple of Vesta, so that the sacred objects there were carried up to the Palatine by the Vestal Virgins, — except the eldest, who had become blind, — and were placed in the house of the priest of Jupiter. 3 The basilica was afterwards rebuilt, nominally by Aemilius, who was p345the descendant of the family of the man who had formerly erected it, but really by Augustus and the friends of Paulus. At this time the Pannonians revolted again and were subdued, and the Maritime Alps, inhabited by the Ligurians who were called Comati, and were still free even then, were reduced to slavery.

stephan huller

Eric Rowe in his recent dissertation Called By the Name of the Lord: Early Uses of the Name and Titles of Jesus in Identifying his followers http://etd.nd.edu/ETD-db/theses/avai...weE072012D.pdf notes:

A final possible reference to the Herodians is a Roman inscription that might read [ΣΥΝΑ]ΓΩΓΗΣ [Η]ΡΟΔΙΩΝ. If this is a reference to the Herodians, then its –ιων is an alternate spelling of –ειων. While this identification is speculative, other Roman inscriptions bear witness to synagogues named for important political figures, including Agrippesians (Ἀγριππησίων) and Augustesians (Αὐγυστησίων).(p. 40)

As such it would seem that sometimes -ίων was used for the name of voluntary associations. Again:

The local congregations of the Jesus movement were often regarded as voluntary associations in antiquity. Pliny classifies them as hetaerias (Ep. 10.96.7), a label he uses elsewhere for voluntary associations (Ep. 10.34). Lucian of Samosata refers to a leader within the movement as a θιασάρχης, a leader of a θιασός or voluntary association (Perigrinus 11). Celsus refers to Christian groups as κοινωνιαί, another word for associations (Origen, Contra Celsum 8.17). Tertullian says, “We are an association [corpus]” (1 Apol. 39). The late second-century Martyrs of Lyons employs a play on words likening Christianity to a guild by calling it an ἀδελφότης centered on τῆς τέχνης Χριστοῦ.

Solo

Hi Stephan,
the only finished piece is my ground laying essay on Mark as paradoxical allegory, titled "Dou Not You Understand This Parable". I show how I read Mark's "gospel" as allegorical rendering of, and a theological tribute to, Paul. I argue that Mark consciously wrote an allegorical narrative and that the writing was likely known to his community as oι παραβολες του Ιεσου, with the pun on the double meaning of the genitive. IOW, the writing betrays parabolic design of all events in the gospel (ie. parables about Jesus), not just wisdom material spoken by him (ie. parables by Jesus).

If you write to me at jiri.severa@rogers.com, I'll send you the updated essay.

Best,
Jiri

DCHindley

But where online??

DCHindley

Why is Plutarch the "Mudder Load?" [misspelling mine]

Vorkosigan

So... this puts the date of Mark up after the 130s. It also sheds new light on who the Pharisees might be, and what the "render unto Caesar" might mean.