theophilus

This is "sort of" correct. The law did not "establish" an obligation. The law "declared" that a sacrifice was required to atone for sin. The animal sacrifices were typical, i.e., symbolic, of the true sacrifice which was Jesus (who is God).

Whenever there is an offense, someone must bear the consequence, either the offended party or the offending party. We recognize this in ordinary affairs. If someone steals from me, there are two possible resolutions:
1. The theif restores what he has taken, plus a punitive amount.
2. I "forgive" the offense, which requires that I "bear" the cost myself.

The consequence for sin (an offense against the Creator to whom one owes absolute obedience) is death. Adam's sin corrupted his nature and so, the sentence of death passed to all his descendants, i.e., the entire human race.

All men are under the sentence of death (this is why there are no "innocents,") and God may justly execute that sentence at any point. His purpose in creating man, however, was to show his grace by redeeming a people from this sentence.

In order to do this, he had to endure the penalty himself (#2 above). This is why Jesus must be God - God could not justly assign the penalty to a third party and no other created being could meet the requirement for justice.

Re "the blood;" the bible declares, long before modern medicine was around, that "life is in the blood." This was established in God's command to Noah, "whoever 'sheds man's blood,'' i.e., killed someone, would forfeit his own life.

theophilus

Well, sin is certainly "in" your head (and your heart and your will and your emotions).

Hawkingfan

That's funny.

DT 24:16, 2KI 14:6, 2CH 25:4, EZ 18:20 Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins.

Hmm? Can someone say "inconsistency"?

Wyz_sub10

You're avoiding the question.

Hawkingfan

Where is the JUSTICE for punishing me for Adam's sin?

Hawkingfan

Like hell it is.

Hawkingfan

Theo,

It is completely idiotic to even think about the "cause of death". I don't want to live forever. Maybe you do. I'm really happy for you.

I am EXTREMELY grateful to know that some day my life will end.

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Hawkingfan,
Just a heads up...the post said 'not forget sin'. Because sacrifice was emotionally heavy and difficult, time-consuming and costly...man would not forget why he was there. Better yet...man would be less inclined to sin in the future knowing what he would have to go through to atone for it.


What is 'much worse'?



Sure. You mean like repenting? This is exactly what sacrifice encouraged.



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Hawkingfan,
Show me a sinless person...and I'll show you an 'inconsistency'.




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Mageth

This is "sort of" correct. The law did not "establish" an obligation. The law "declared" that a sacrifice was required to atone for sin. The animal sacrifices were typical, i.e., symbolic, of the true sacrifice which was Jesus (who is God).

Call it what you want, according to the bible (the way I see it), the "system" was set up, established, or declared by god in that way (and long before the Law), and thus being declared, god himself was bound to it (I'm assuming god can't violate something once he's declared it).

Further, the bible indicates that the sacrifice was "declared" long before the Law was established, unless the Law was established "from before the foundation of the world."


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