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tgamble · 07-02-2002, 04:44 AM

Thanks for the advice. The post has been edited to take care of both your points.

If you notice anything else, feel free to point it out.

Valentine Pontifex · 07-02-2002, 07:25 PM

There is another possible destination for this
essay. How about <a href="http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/default.htm" target="_blank">No Answers in Genesis</a>? Just to keep options open.

tgamble · 07-03-2002, 11:29 AM

I uploaded the page to a new webpage. <a href="http://creationcrap.batcave.net" target="_blank">http://creationcrap.batcave.net</a>

In case nobody has noticed I haven't responded to all 15 points.

7. Evolution cannot explain how life first appeared on earth.

Also various claims about Dawkins and computer simulations. This sort of stuff is a bit beyond my ability to refute. Any suggestions/advice/help would be appretiated.

Also, a specific rebuttal to this claim would be helpful.

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More important, however, the Second Law permits parts of a system to decrease in entropy as long as other parts experience an offsetting increase. Thus, our planet as a whole can grow more complex because the sun pours heat and light onto it, and the greater entropy associated with the sun�s nuclear fusion more than rebalances the scales. Simple organisms can fuel their rise toward complexity by consuming other forms of life and nonliving materials.
This energy input is necessary but not sufficient. The proverbial bull in a china shop produces disorder, but if the same bull was harnessed to a generator, this energy could be directed into useful work. Similarly, living organisms have machinery to direct the energy from sunlight or food, including the ATP synthase motor. But machinery presupposes teleology (purpose), which means that the machinery must have had an intelligent source.

I have lots of links, but I doubt many visitors will want to wade through a lot of links. A short simple answer would be best. I know there are lots of brillaint, well informed and well educated folks here. Please help! Thanks.

Other requests:

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Macroevolution needs new genes (for making feathers on reptiles, for example).

I'll have a look around for the explanation for feathers from scales any input would be welcome.

Again, thanks for the help.

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tgamble · 07-09-2002, 04:37 AM

My response is now online at:

<a href="http://creationcrap.batcave.net" target="_blank">http://creationcrap.batcave.net</a>

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07-02-2002, 04:44 AM	#11
tgamble Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: St. John's, Nfld. Canada Posts: 1,652	Thanks for the advice. The post has been edited to take care of both your points. If you notice anything else, feel free to point it out.

07-02-2002, 07:25 PM	#12
Valentine Pontifex Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Orion Arm of the Milky Way Galaxy Posts: 3,092	There is another possible destination for this essay. How about <a href="http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/default.htm" target="_blank">No Answers in Genesis</a>? Just to keep options open.

07-09-2002, 04:37 AM	#14
tgamble Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: St. John's, Nfld. Canada Posts: 1,652	My response is now online at: <a href="http://creationcrap.batcave.net" target="_blank">http://creationcrap.batcave.net</a>

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