Rima

Thanks for explanation.
to me operating this forum is so complicated , may be it is just me ?

thanks anyway



'The Way of the Holy Ones':

Don't speak of your suffering -- He is speaking.
Don't look for Him everywhere -- He's looking for you.

An ant's foot touches a leaf, He senses it;
A pebble shifts in a streambed, He knows it.

If there's a worm hidden deep in a rock,
He'll know its body, tinier than an atom,

The sound of its praise, its secret ecstasy --
All this He knows by divine knowing.

He has given the tiniest worm its food;
He has opened to you the Way of the Holy Ones.

Abul-Majd Sana`i

Darth Dane

Have you seen "meetings with remarkable men"?

There is a part of it were dervish dances is performed.

The movie is alos rather interesting, it deals with the life of Gurdjieff.

A poem from Rumi(I think)



From the beginning of my life I have been looking for your face, but today I've seen it

Today I've seen, the charm, the beauty, the unfathomable grace of the face that I was looking for

Today I have found you, and those who laughed and scorned me yesterday, are sorry that they were not looking as I did

I am bewildered by the magnificience of your beauty and I wish to see you with a hundred eyes

My heart has burned with passion and has searched forever for this wondrous beauty that I now behold.

I am ashamed to call this love human and afraid of God to call it Divine

Your fragrant breath, like the morning breeze has come to the stillness of the garden

You have breathed new life into me, I have become your sunshine and also your shadow

My soul is screaming in ecstasy, every fibre of my being is in love with you

Your effulgence has lit a fire in my heart, and you have made radiant for me the earth and sky

My arrow of Love has arrived at the target

I Am in the house of mercy, and my heart is a place of prayer





DD - Love & Laughter

Ronin

May the lover be drunk and infamous all the year.
May he be charmed, frenzied, and mad.
While sober, we suffer for everything.
When we get drunk, we let go of everything.

(Translated by Reza Saberi, from A Thousand Years of Persian Rubiayat)

~ Big Ups Rumzillah

Rima

O Marvel! a garden amidst the flames.
My heart has become capable of every form:
it is a pasture for gazelles and a convent for Christian monks,
and a temple for idols and the pilgrim's Kaa'ba,
and the tables of the Torah and the book of the Quran.
I follow the religion of Love: whatever way Love's camels take,
that is my religion and my faith.



IBN ARABY

Ronin

If I myself upon a looser Creed
Have loosely strung the Jewel of Good Deed,
Let this one thing for my Atonement plead
That One for Two I never did misread.

Ah, Love! Could Thou and I with Fate conspire
to grasp this sorry scheme of things entire,
Would not we shatter it to bits - and then
Re-mold it nearer to the Heart's Desire?

(Omar Khayyam's Rubaiyat)

Rima

o thank you my friend for these beautiful poems

I love reading Rubaiyat Khayam , I have them in my (serbo-croation )language.

Were it not for
the excess of your talking
and the turmoil in your hearts,
you would see what I see
and hear what I hear!

ibn araby

Ronin

Ah, make the most of what we yet may spend,
Before we too into the dust descend;
Dust into dust, and under dust, to lie,
Sans wine, sans song, sans singer, and - sans end!

(Omar Khayyam's Rubaiyat)

fried beef sandwich

What/who exactly are those whirling dancers in the photos you just posted?

Ronin

Whirling Dervish

Why, all the saints and sages who discuss'd
Of the two worlds so learnedly, are thrust
Like foolish prophets forth; their words to scorn
Are scatter'd, and their mouths are stopt with dust.

Rima

Hello
Mevelvi or WHIRLING DERVISHES are God`s lovers, dancing and whirling for hours they express their love toward our creator our beloved Lord and God.

The "dance" of the Whirling Dervishes is called Sema. Sema is a part of the inspiration of JALALUDIN RUMI (known as Mevlana)

the Sema ceremony represents a mystical journey of man's spiritual ascent through mind and love to "Perfect." Turning towards the truth, his growth through love, desert his ego, find the truth and arrive to the "Perfect," then he return from this spiritual journey as a man who reached maturity and a greater perfection, so as to love and to be of service to the whole of creation, to all creatures without discrimination of believes, races, classes and nations.
Sema consists of seven parts: you can read about that here:
Mevelevi Sema