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Yellum Notnef · 02-12-2003, 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by Sabine Grant
Hello Fenton... in your thread " what kind of christians do you respect most" you have stated after several posts ( not in your OP) that you wished theists did not comment in your thread. As a result I sent you a PM and indicated to you that I was withdrawing from your thread and that had you requested in your OP that theists not partake in comments I would have respected it.
However, Rad as well as myself have equal rights as you do to express our opinions in this Forum unless the Administration has set in place restrictions for certain circumstances.
Just a reminder that the law you set out in your thread does not give you the right to ask anyone to silence anyone else.

Good grief!
Now I`m sure of it,Sabine. You really DON`T know a joke when you see one.

Is it really necessary to be so serious and proper ALL the time? I suggest you lighten up a bit as it would save your fingers from a huge amount of typing.

Btw,I`m sure Rad got the joke and is not taking the day off work to fill out litigation papers with his lawyers.

Ronin · 02-12-2003, 07:46 AM

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Steve... how do you know that the events described in the Bible are indeed acts of God? what if they were acts done by men using the "shield" of " God said so" to justify them?

Well shit, Sabine, I don't even believe in God...it's your book of fairy tales.

How do you know that 'Christ' is gifted with bountiful love given that same inquiry?

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That would probably be a question to ask God...

Of course. Bring him on down.

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As far as your doubt as to what challenges I may present to other christians whether it is in my real life or cyber activities on christian forums, I will gladly refer you on PM to a christian forum where I do present those challenges. You can then make public statements in this forum if you wish after your personal observation. In the meantime, your doubts about what I stated earlier remain only doubts.

Are you really sure you wish to unleash me onto you group of huddled masses humming "lalalalala" while covering their ears?

One of them might get unplugged.

Please elaborate as to which 'doubts' you are referring to as I have soundly refuted so many of your assertions, I have simply lost track.

abe smith · 02-12-2003, 07:50 AM

The OP at this thread is
"What will you say to God?" and my response to that initial
qy is "To *god*-WHO?" Ain' no ain' no.

ju'iblex · 02-12-2003, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Beyelzu
how about jaws and saving private ryan, those were both very good movies.

et blew but jaws ruled.

DONT MAKE FUN OF MY GOD STEVEN SPIELBERG

*cough* no.

notMichaelJackson · 02-12-2003, 03:02 PM

According to Matt 22, none of you will be able to say anything

Matt.22
[1] And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
[2] The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
[3] And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
[4] Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
[5] But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
[6] And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
[7] But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
[8] Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
[9] Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
[10] So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
[11] And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
[12] And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
[13] Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
[14] For many are called, but few are chosen.

Yellum Notnef · 02-12-2003, 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by notMichaelJackson
According to Matt 22, none of you will be able to say anything

But if you do manage to say something you better make sure it`s in ebonics.

JEST2ASK · 02-12-2003, 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Sue Sponte
Coke or Pepsi?

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Originally posted by Shake
Boxers or briefs?

Paper or Plastic

Somewhat seriously echoing another previous post ..

WHY .....

Kintaro · 02-12-2003, 07:45 PM

I thought about this.
In one word:
How.......

because the why becomes evident. When you see all the "effort" some entity wastes to create an imperfect world, with imperfect believers, as some people mention : Why didn't it just scrap us and start over ?

Do not try to refute this with the bible.
Books are not the Word of God. The word of god or some other deity will be pronounced by them, and heard by someone, not thought up by them. (As of yet, nothing... the trend points to nothing ever) It is not what your 2-cent preacher tells you what god said. It is not what you delude yourself to believe what was said, whether you consciously fabricate, dream, or hallucinate, regardless of drug use or not. If you had to use your imagination to create God's answer then it is not his answer but yours.

To kind of refute a previous post, why quote 14 verses when only 4 words are your point ? I fail to see the point with anything in this. Even if you try to interpret it in a way to make sense, it becomes that, your interpretation. Which becomes useless when this is God's word we're trying to find.

Then there's the whole question of him existing in the first place. I equate divinities with crop circles. They exist as creations or delusions that happen up there which are voiced out in bizarre ways (trespassing, lying, deceit, you know, the usual). Up there is never higher than 2.53 m off the floor (no jumping) FYI, in my case, 2.01m.

WWSD · 02-12-2003, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by notMichaelJackson
According to Matt 22, none of you will be able to say anything

Could that not be a literary convention and not a literal meaning? I would place my bets on literary convention. Not that I place much faith in the bible being true anyway...

As for what I might say to a god, if I were to die and meet it...

First I would determine whether there was a hell or not, then based upon that I would say:

You SONOFABITCHINEVERASKEDTOBEBORN!
(that being in the case of a hell existing)

or

So, you did all of this why? (No hell situation)

02-12-2003, 08:13 PM

All joking aside, I'd ask Him why he made human beings with an appendix. What kind of a maniac puts a ticking time bomb inside his children?!

02-12-2003, 07:50 AM	#103
abe smith Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: springfield, MA. USA Posts: 2,482	Resp. to OP at this thread: The OP at this thread is "What will you say to God?" and my response to that initial qy is "To god-WHO?" Ain' no ain' no.

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02-12-2003, 03:02 PM	#105
notMichaelJackson Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IL Posts: 552	According to Matt 22, none of you will be able to say anything Matt.22 [1] And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, [2] The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, [3] And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. [4] Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. [5] But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: [6] And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. [7] But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. [8] Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. [9] Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. [10] So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. [11] And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: [12] And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. [13] Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. [14] For many are called, but few are chosen.

02-12-2003, 07:45 PM	#108
Kintaro Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 247	I thought about this. In one word: How....... because the why becomes evident. When you see all the "effort" some entity wastes to create an imperfect world, with imperfect believers, as some people mention : Why didn't it just scrap us and start over ? Do not try to refute this with the bible. Books are not the Word of God. The word of god or some other deity will be pronounced by them, and heard by someone, not thought up by them. (As of yet, nothing... the trend points to nothing ever) It is not what your 2-cent preacher tells you what god said. It is not what you delude yourself to believe what was said, whether you consciously fabricate, dream, or hallucinate, regardless of drug use or not. If you had to use your imagination to create God's answer then it is not his answer but yours. To kind of refute a previous post, why quote 14 verses when only 4 words are your point ? I fail to see the point with anything in this. Even if you try to interpret it in a way to make sense, it becomes that, your interpretation. Which becomes useless when this is God's word we're trying to find. Then there's the whole question of him existing in the first place. I equate divinities with crop circles. They exist as creations or delusions that happen up there which are voiced out in bizarre ways (trespassing, lying, deceit, you know, the usual). Up there is never higher than 2.53 m off the floor (no jumping) FYI, in my case, 2.01m.

02-12-2003, 08:13 PM	#110
atheist_in_foxhole Guest Posts: n/a	All joking aside, I'd ask Him why he made human beings with an appendix. What kind of a maniac puts a ticking time bomb inside his children?!

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