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Old 06-09-2003, 07:20 PM   #31
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Doesn't matter what you believe, that does not constitute eminet threat the only basis that the Hague recognizes as provocation for armed conflict. Accordingly your President Bush is guilty of the highest of war crimes. :banghead:

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But that's too late. He wouldn't have made the threat imminent until he was ready to take us on.
The threat is not imminent until he has WMD - to take us on. How difficult is this concept to grasp Loren?

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You know, as much as the intelligence community is doing CYA on this, you have to admit that the analysts are really acquitting themselves well.

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Yes, but names would be most helpful. Perhaps Rumsfeld will lend a hand and call on all of those with information, no matter how minor their input, to come forward.

Candy's name has come up a number of times. She irks me as well. I particularly enjoyed her multiple references to 'revisionist history'.

We are not discussing 'revisionist history' in light of his having WMD - we are discussing the imminent threat thereof, and I'm growing tired of the red herring piling up around me.
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The threat is not imminent until he has WMD - to take us on. How difficult is this concept to grasp Loren?

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But by then it's going to be a showdown with WMD.
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I think we are responding to the larger-than-life image of Iraqi power and menace that both Bush and Saddam would have us believe, but get real. How many years did he fight Iran, using the best weapons he could afford, getting all kinds of help from the US on bio weapons that he did deploy,, and he could only hold his own lines. He managed to crush mighty Kuwait in a blitzkrieg. Could he do the same to Luxembourg? Monte Carlo? I suppose if he had any way to move his troops and tanks there he could give Guam hell. C'mon people. The ease with which we crushed his war machine both times should give the lie to any notion of Iraqi threat. He had no war-fighting delivery systems with which to fight a "WMD showdown" and no means to secretly obtain them. It's a four letter word friends: H-Y-P-E!
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