Starboy

DD, I was hoping you would respond with that. Read the sentence very carefully:

The key word here is interpretation. Whose interpretation? Why your interpretation of course! In the case of GOT what other interpretation is there? It comes with no interpretation. GOT is a kind of written Rorschach test. What it contains is not important; it is the interpretation of the person reading it that is important. It reflects your preconceived prejudices and superstitions. In and of itself it is mostly gibberish. So, if indeed its relevance is entirely based on your interpretation then it is dependent on your intuition. And as I said before if your intuition was worth a damn you wouldn�t need to take the Gospel of Thomas Rorschach test.

Starboy

Deacon Doubtmonger

And Steve spake unto them, saying, Not everyone who sayeth unto me, MmmmmDooohhhhnnuuuutttt.....AAAUUUUGGGGGHHHHgggg!, shall enter into the Kingdom of Christianson.

cydonia

When I found about the Thomas Gospel, I clung to it because it let me accept Christ without the baggage my family had given me, they probably didn't even know about the Thomas Gospel, and if I told them about it, they'd say it's not in the bible which would give me even more reason to like it. I'm afraid I don't buy any of it anymore, though.

Darth Dane

The key word here is interpretation. Whose interpretation? Why your interpretation of course! In the case of GOT what other interpretation is there? It comes with no interpretation. GOT is a kind of written Rorschach test. What it contains is not important; it is the interpretation of the person reading it that is important. It reflects your preconceived prejudices and superstitions. In and of itself it is mostly gibberish. So, if indeed its relevance is entirely based on your interpretation then it is dependent on your intuition. And as I said before if your intuition was worth a damn you wouldn�t need to take the Gospel of Thomas Rorschach test.

Starboy


If you interpret it as nonsense, and I recoqnize something, then you and I hve interpreted something different. How do you know that it is gibberish? Seek and you shall find? I am seeking and I am finding








DD - Love & Laughter

Voltaire's girl

You found because you wanted to. A person can read profound meaning into any old rubish if they try hard enough. Heck, I could read anti-gun sentiment into the NRA Newsletter if I really really wanted to.

lunachick

Okay, this may have been said, I haven't read the whole thread - so forgive me if I'm treading old ground, but...

Didn't Dr. Dick say, "I need you to say you can do it", when he first asked if Steve could do 300 press-ups? Dr. Dick used his position to emotionally blackmail and psychologically manipulate Steve, via Steve's ego and naivete, and didn't even give the guy enough info to make an informed decision about whether or not his compliance is morally right or wrong, binding him into a contract that poor ol' Steve never should have agreed to.

Dr. Dick is a cunt. There are no two ways about it. The whole situation, from go to whoa, is an abuse of his authority.

Darth Dane

Didn't Dr. Dick say, "I need you to say you can do it", when he first asked if Steve could do 300 press-ups? Dr. Dick used his position to emotionally blackmail and psychologically manipulate Steve, via Steve's ego and naivete, and didn't even give the guy enough info to make an informed decision about whether or not his compliance is morally right or wrong, binding him into a contract that poor ol' Steve never should have agreed to.

Dr. Dick is a cunt. There are no two ways about it. The whole situation, from go to whoa, is an abuse of his authority.

Yes, but we don't really know how God communctaed with Jesus.

Maybe it was the other way around?

Jesus:. Ok God, give me a challenge, a big one!

God: Ok You sure you wanna do this? If you fail, I won't get angry, you see all is equal in my eye. But if you want sure.


Or some derivation thereof. I don't know how this was done between God and Jesus.






DD - Love & Laughter

Voltaire's girl

That makes no sense at all. Jesus was alledgedy born to save humanity. He was born "on assignment". It doesn't make any sense to suggest that he had to ask for a job he had since birth. Besides, what about when he complains to God about having too much to deal with, when he asks God to take the cup away?
Whether or not Jesus asked for a challenge, God had already decided anyway.

Starboy

Duh! GOT is not about anything objective, it is all about the subjective. I refrain from interpreting it because I know that in and of itself it is nothing. It is just a mirror of my own prejudices. If I fall into the trap I will not learn anything that I didn't already know! I will only learn something new when I realize it is a mirror of my own prejudices and then systematically start taking a very close look at myself. You do not need GOT to do this. If you had any intuition you would know this!

Starboy

Darth Dane

That makes no sense at all. Jesus was alledgedy born to save humanity.

Yes, alledgedly, hold on to that thought

He was born "on assignment". It doesn't make any sense to suggest that he had to ask for a job he had since birth.

So he asked before birth. I wonder what I asked for before birth?

Besides, what about when he complains to God about having too much to deal with, when he asks God to take the cup away?

Who wants to die/leave earth? You are in a nursery home, playing with other kids, suddenly "Dad" comes by and says "it's time to go, I told you I would pick you up at this time" Just like most humans who doesn't want to die. How do we know what we agreed on before being born?

Whether or not Jesus asked for a challenge, God had already decided anyway.

Well, someone said; "Not even a hair on your head would move, if it were not for the will of God"

Just because most can't remember what they are here to do, doesn't mean it isn't by our own doing?

Duh! GOT is not about anything objective, it is all about the subjective. I refrain from interpreting it because I know that in and of itself it is nothing. It is just a mirror of my own prejudices. If I fall into the trap I will not learn anything that I didn't already know! I will only learn something new when I realize it is a mirror of my own prejudices and then systematically start taking a very close look at myself. You do not need GOT to do this. If you had any intuition you would know this!

If I say you can taste an orange(which you haven't tasted yet!Metaphor) then I can write objective books and write objective words on how this orange tastes, smells, looks, sounds, feels. But you won't know what it is like until you have tasted it yourself. But then it becomes a subjective experience. Then you will try to write words on what it is like, but not until you have actually experienced teh orange yourself, you will not be sure(know) how it is, it will just be someones subjective expression of what an orange Is. Even when you will try to explain it to others they will just point at you and say: "Bah it is only your own subjective experience", of course you will claim it to be objective truth, but they won't know that until they have tasted it, and when they have, they don't need your words to tell them what it Is.

You will recoqnise the words and say; "Yup that sounds about right".






DD - Love & Laughter