Badfish

You forgot about #3)

seebs

I *believe* it, as you do. I don't *know* it - I can point you at a lot of Christians who insist that the law was not "abolished".

I have never seen any meaningful explanation of the boundary, except "things middle-class mainstream folks want to do are allowed".

Honestly, I think we were released from every law except "love God" and "love your neighbor"; I think every other "law" is irrelevant, except as it flows from those two.

The Frood Dude

I thought this was about women and warfare?

lpetrich

Badfish:
Seebs, you know as well as I do, that some of these laws were abolished with the coming of Christ.

Despite the NT's abrogation of several OT laws, there isn't any comprehensive listing of which laws are kept and which are abrogated.

And when Jesus Christ claims that he fully upholds the Law, down to every little dot and dash, he contradicts his own abrogation of some OT laws.

Pant's was symbolic of women not acting and pretending to be men and visa versa. (Transvestites, homosexual activity, i.e. )

Where in the Bible does it mention any women who had worn pants?

And what does homosexuality have to do with acting like the opposite sex? It's simply preferring the same sex of sex partner.

Badfish

I think I like the women and warfare explaination better.

Badfish

Yeah, could be.

beth

A gal after mine own heart! Let's cast a circle, I'll swipe some Holy water out of the church basin. I'll gather some pagan friends and we'll have a grand ole time!

brighid

Ah ... we have our own Holy Water babe No doubt it would be fun! Beltane Eve is fast approaching!

Brighid

GeoTheo

Helen, Why is it that when faced with choice of discounting the credibility of a former Christians professed lack of belief or discrediting Bible, you choose the latter?
The Bible says that people have no excuse for not believing in God and that those who claim they don't believe in God are fools.
Do you not take much stock in the book of Romans?
Paul claims that people are without excuse because of natural revelation. I am also wondering if you reject the doctrine of eternal security.
In a conversation, I can see why it is more productive to take people at their word, but I notice you often like to take other Christians to task when they question the sincerity of former Christians in their claim to not believe in God. The Bible seems to support this, however. You seem to have the position that atheism is just as honerable a position as belief and that people really have no choice in the matter. I find this to be an odd position for a Christian to take.
Thank you

Bree

If you'd like to criticise Helen's beliefs, please do so elsewhere - preferably in PM. Helen should not be made to feel like she must defend her stance on Christianity (of which she is a part) in public.