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Old 06-20-2003, 03:14 PM   #81
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Homosexuality is a deviation from the common denominator of genetics: replication. Therefore it is genetically deviant to be homosexual.
Use of birth control techniques is a deviation from the common denominator of genetics: replication. Therefore it is genetically deviant to use birth control techniques.

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Use of birth control techniques is a deviation from the common denominator of genetics: replication. Therefore it is genetically deviant to use birth control techniques.

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So you think being gay is a choice, like taking birth control is?
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So you think being gay is a choice, like taking birth control is?
Whether homosexuality (or, more precisely, homosexual behaviour) is a "choice" is morally irrelevant.

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If given the choice in some "Gattica" type world, which would you choose your child to be Homosexual, or Heterosexual.
If it was not compulsory to find out, I would refuse that information. If one had to express a choice before conception was permitted, I would flip a coin and choose on that basis.
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Wouldn't it be more fair to roll a ten sided die or something? I would personally choose for my children to be heterosexual simply because it might give them an easier life and might make having grandchildren more likely. Anyway, I think the "older bird pushing the younger birds out the nest" theory might be a pretty good one for explaining at least part of male homosexuality, but it would mean that it is definitely not a strictly genetically determined trait.
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My own theory (though not likely original) that explains why homosexuality is prevalent despite its genetic paradox is simple. It is because societal and religious moralism forces homosexuals to marry and have children, and therefore the gene of homosexuality is propagated.
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Wouldn't it be more fair to roll a ten sided die or something?
Well, if we're talking about enforced choice through genetic selection, I wouldn't really want to determine the natural ratio that I'd be replacing. The opportunity would exist for my gay child to make me a grandparent anyway, and it will be their choice; and my current social circle probably works out at a fairly even mix of gay, straight and bisexual people.

If "bisexual" and various gradients of preference weren't an option, I'd toss a coin. If "bisexual" was an option, that's what I would choose. That way, they will have the opportunity to find the person who makes them happiest, regardless of the contents of that person's underpants.
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My own theory (though not likely original) that explains why homosexuality is prevalent despite its genetic paradox is simple. It is because societal and religious moralism forces homosexuals to marry and have children, and therefore the gene of homosexuality is propagated.
That's pretty damn good.
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My own theory (though not likely original) that explains why homosexuality is prevalent despite its genetic paradox is simple. It is because societal and religious moralism forces homosexuals to marry and have children, and therefore the gene of homosexuality is propagated.
But similar pressures don't exist elsewhere in the animal kingdom, and yet the behavior hasn't been naturally selected out.

I think it's more likely the gene has survival value for the species - activating due to the stress of over-population, for example. Fwiw.
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Question for someone else with more zoological knowledge than me...

We know that homosexual behavior is common in other species, but do some individuals of any other species practice solely homosexual sex? Or is it uniquely human that an individual may avoid heterosexual behavior entirely?

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