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Old 09-11-2004, 12:47 PM   #11
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Dont be silly. It is ridiculous to suggest that God doesn't have a penis :rolling:

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Old 09-11-2004, 12:55 PM   #12
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Well...I suppose if there were a God...Wouldn't hermaphroditic make sense? Why settle for one or the other, if you can have both?
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Oh, good. I've been waiting for an opportunity to bring this up.

Most mainstream Christians, put to it, will say that God isn't really male as we know it, but is referred to that way because it's easier, what with English lacking any gender-neutral pronouns other than it. But I've been wondering lately whether they actually believe that.

If a sect emerged that was identical to mainstream Christianity in every way except that they always referred to God in female terms, how would the mainstream Christians react to it? Would they be accepted as CHristians, or disowned as Pagan heretics? My money's on the latter.
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God cannot be female, since he's perfect.
Odd... I would argue that God's perfection obviously points to Her being female.
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Old 09-11-2004, 01:30 PM   #15
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That would depend on how they arose and why. People would probably think "Hey, they're just doing this to be assholes and stir things up. Well, screw them," even if there was nothing innately wrong about any aspect of their teaching.
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Oh, good. I've been waiting for an opportunity to bring this up.

Most mainstream Christians, put to it, will say that God isn't really male as we know it, but is referred to that way because it's easier, what with English lacking any gender-neutral pronouns other than it. But I've been wondering lately whether they actually believe that.

If a sect emerged that was identical to mainstream Christianity in every way except that they always referred to God in female terms, how would the mainstream Christians react to it? Would they be accepted as CHristians, or disowned as Pagan heretics? My money's on the latter.
To mainline and liberal Christians I cant imagine it being a problem, but to some of the more conservative types It might well be. I have seen debates with a fundamentalist get completely derailed just because I referred to God as feminine.

And there are some Christians who refer to God as 'she'
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Old 09-13-2004, 09:00 AM   #17
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The limitations of our minds allow us to see, comprehend, imagine only that which has boundaries.
Maybe you can't, but there are many who can imagine parallel universes, time travel and other boundary less ideas
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In my humble opinion, the infinite energy, God, created the finite energy, everything else.
As far as science knows matter and energy can neither be created or destroyed but can be converted from one form to another. So now you are telling me that you know energy can be created and destroyed for it to be finite?
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Can you train a bear to sit by just telling him to sit? No, you must use antics and conditioning that the bear understands.
But we are not bears, we can understand and imagine abstract thoughts and ideas, do you consider yourself on the intelligence level of a bear?
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This is why God is always mentioned as “He�?. We cannot fathom a genderless entity
Why not? I can certainly imagine a genderless entity, even if you cant.
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, and of the genders we understand, the male is the stronger. We are in awe of Kings and Emperors with iron fists and just rule. We fear, admire, and respect them. So a male God, a King of Kings, is easier for us to understand than a female God.
Boss, Personally I prefer a female goddess who is loving, caring, feeding and nurturing mother rather than an autocratic father figure who is always dictating to me. Though I will have no problems with a loving father god.
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The use of “I�? in the Qur’an indicates the authority of the one true infinite, boundless God. He is the King of Kings, the One to turn to when we are desperate, the One to fear when we have strayed,
Maybe you get a kick out of being scared and shitting in your pants? Why must god be feared if HE is loving merciful and kind?
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He is The Most Benificent,
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the Most Merciful,
Certainly not, He boils disbelievers in hell so he doesn't show any mercy.
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the Most Forgiving,
Again certainly not, as he doesn't forgive disbelievers according to you. so how can he be called forgiving?
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the Most Loving,
If HE was most loving why doesn't HE appear atleast once a year and solve world problems in a jiffy instead of sending a messenger boy with dictates every thousand years?
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the Most Worthy of all praise.
I certainly don't like a god who delights in syncophancy and grovelling of beings who are as powerless to him as a bug is to man.
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The use of “We�? indicates the omnipresence of of God. It is a term we can understand. When an army of millions of soldiers storms into a foreign land, they seem to be everywhere. Their line fills the horizon, their planes fill the sky.
Yes Genghiz khan and kublai khan did us a favour when they massacred millions of muslims around 1241 CE and stopped dead the spread of Islam.
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The question, for me, demands as much thought as another burning religious question: How many angels can dance on a pin head?

The answer is the same. It doesn't matter. No answer anyone gives can ever be proven correct or incorrect.

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I'll give you the same answer I give to most trivia questions: Who cares? Does it really matter what is the sex of an imaginary being?

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Go watch Dogma and be enlightened.
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