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Old 01-21-2003, 04:56 AM   #111
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When I stand before God on judgement day, and He looks at my life and says, "What a mess!", Jesus will come to my aid and say, "But Father, despite everything, she defended Me."
So in your weird pantheon of multiple gods the head god doesn't have the complete information and is incapable of making the correct decision until advised by its "son"? What happens if the head god overrules the Jesus-god?
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<<Originally posted by Gemma Therese
When I stand before God on judgement day, and He looks at my life and says, "What a mess!", Jesus will come to my aid and say, "But Father, despite everything, she defended Me.">>

I suppose you are entirely unconscious of the colossal arrogance embedded in that statement.

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I don't think that's how it will go down, but I think "arrogant" is an assumption. Why is she necessarily being arrogant?

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Old 01-21-2003, 08:05 AM   #114
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Is that pretty much what you were taught Bill, or am I missing the mark there?
Ummm....well.....no. I can't remember the sisters ever saying anything even remotely like that.

From what I've seen, Amos has a rather unique and personal perspective on the catechism.

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To defend the Roman Catholic Church, and to defend my Beloved, Christ.

When I stand before God on judgement day, and He looks at my life and says, "What a mess!", Jesus will come to my aid and say, "But Father, despite everything, she defended Me."
Will he? Or will he say "She defended the Catholic Church even after being presented with conclusive evidence that it has been a corrupt, autocratic organization for a long time. She refused to question the authority of the Pope and other men in the church organization even when they ran counter to my teachings, common sense, and human decency. She let herself be deluded that mortal men and women have the authority to tell others how to worship God. While claiming to defend the church, she made no effort to reform it from within. By doing so she was complicit in the attempts of the church to distort My message and co-opt My authority for its own personal gain."
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Then the holy spook will be called in to break the tie between the other two gods.
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I don't think that's how it will go down, but I think "arrogant" is an assumption. Why is she necessarily being arrogant?

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Because she is assuming that Jesus (who is the dog's as far as she is concerned) will be so impressed with her defence of catholism, that he will save her from Hell.
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On judgment day you will stand before God and He will say: I told man that I am a God of love, peace, mercy and compassion and yet you believed all the man made “Scripture” that said I sent my son as a sword, that people should be murdered for their lack of belief to appease me, and every time Christian men and women murdered in my name I am outraged that they feel that I am with them. And you dear Gemma, you did not question the Earthly authority of men. You did not question forced conversions. You did not question the “miracles’ of mother Teresa as she allowed millions of my children to needlessly suffer on this Earth. How were her actions loving, merciful or compassionate? How could suffering of such magnitude bring these people closer to My love? Did it work? How many spat in my face when this Messenger came to torment their bodies with dirty needles, bare floors, no food and inadequate shelter? How is it that you could not make out my true words from those invented by man to serve his own purposes? How did you not know that the “faith” was a test for the worthy and the unworthy, and those who simply believed because it was easier or out of fear have been deemed unworthy to enter my paradise? How did you not know that I do not want dishonest believers who come to my doorstep out of fear of death, harm or eternal torture? This is not the promise of a loving God! You failed to use the reason I gave to every child of mine. You pushed the questions I placed in your brain away so you could believe in an idea of God that does not exist. I lead you and you chose to honor the institutions of man, a corrupt Church that I left long ago when it chose to blaspheme my love and compassion through murder, torture, deceit, greed and lust for power over all mankind. You should be ashamed that you followed man. I gave you the tools. I told you, in your heart that I am only love and yet you excused away the horrors, inconsistencies and out right falsehoods men attributed to me. You have failed. How shall I treat you now? Shall I use the yardstick you used to measure your fellow man, or would you like me to be that God of Love you failed to honor on Earth?"

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Ouch.

It does make you wonder how Amos could call mother church the "envy of the world."

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