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catjerome · 03-13-2003, 08:59 AM

I've read messages and protest alerts about abstinence-only sex ed, and I oppose the idea of it, but I have no idea what's actually being taught in that curriculum. What's the content?

I mean, I assume a bunch of stuff about it, but I don't actually know what it is that they teach and I'd like to find out. Do they mention birth control? STDs? Do they talk about actual sex at all, or do they just give an anatomy lesson and then say "Don't ever touch this! Um, until you're married" ? I don't know!

Can anyone point me to any websites that discuss it or any online curriculum units?

Jimmy Higgins · 03-13-2003, 09:33 AM

Actually I just saw a skit on SNL on Comedy Central with those stupid cheerleaders. They said "Sex can wait, masterbate!"

Its probably the same thing, except the masterbation thing as well, seeing that is a sin too. :banghead:

wildernesse · 03-13-2003, 09:34 AM

Here is a link to Human Rights Watch's Report on Abstinence-Only Education in the US. link

They feel that federally-funded abstinence-only education programs can potentially harm youth because of the lack of information given about HIV/AIDS. Many federally-funded programs are not required and do not teach HIV/AIDS prevention. "Don't Do It." is supposed to suffice.

--tibac

Monkeybot · 03-13-2003, 09:38 AM

coldshowercoldshowercoldshowercoldshowercoldshower coldshower

Solsticin · 03-13-2003, 10:01 AM

Great subject line hehehhe.

Masturbation is the topic I guess. Strictly speaking I have no problem with "teaching" it (can you teach how NOT to do something?? WTF?), but they should explain sex in general and the perils inherent, and that it is NORMAL AND NATURAL. Damn, you'd think sex was a BAD thing listening to these people.

Leave the Abstinence education to preists that have to be around children dammit. They can't seem to figure that out on their own!

THEY NEED THE EDUCATION!

Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ · 03-13-2003, 10:49 AM

Here's the curriculim:

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Toto · 03-13-2003, 11:13 AM

They teach that life begins at conception, so abortion is murder and also is linked to breast cancer, that birth control is unreliable, that condoms do not prevent the transmisison of the HIV virus, and other mythology propounded by the religious right. I think they also promote "secondary virginity" for those who have fallen but promise to reform.

They probably don't tell the kids that Abstinence Only leads to increases in abortion

There is a description of one program in this thread that you might find amusing in a twisted sort of way:

Abstinence Only Rears Its Ugly Head Again

Daggah · 03-13-2003, 11:15 AM

Jesus Christ, are you sure that's the curriculum? You might've gotten it confused with the list of positive effects of abstinence-only sex ed.

blame_the_gods · 03-13-2003, 12:47 PM

Abstinence is a Social Disease

or, possibly, the Greatest Perversion of All...

<Thanks for the thread, I got a chance to flaunt my current home-made bumper snicker>

-and to our Monkeybotted Sex-goddesses:

There is NO shower cold enough when I dream of your supple cerebral hemispheres - I've tried, and tried, and tr.

Loren Pechtel · 03-14-2003, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by catjerome
I've read messages and protest alerts about abstinence-only sex ed, and I oppose the idea of it, but I have no idea what's actually being taught in that curriculum. What's the content?

I mean, I assume a bunch of stuff about it, but I don't actually know what it is that they teach and I'd like to find out. Do they mention birth control? STDs? Do they talk about actual sex at all, or do they just give an anatomy lesson and then say "Don't ever touch this! Um, until you're married" ? I don't know!

Can anyone point me to any websites that discuss it or any online curriculum units?

Basically a bunch of lies about how dangerous sex outside marriage is.

03-13-2003, 08:59 AM	#1
catjerome Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: East Coast Posts: 86	Abstinence-only sex ed: What's the content? I've read messages and protest alerts about abstinence-only sex ed, and I oppose the idea of it, but I have no idea what's actually being taught in that curriculum. What's the content? I mean, I assume a bunch of stuff about it, but I don't actually know what it is that they teach and I'd like to find out. Do they mention birth control? STDs? Do they talk about actual sex at all, or do they just give an anatomy lesson and then say "Don't ever touch this! Um, until you're married" ? I don't know! Can anyone point me to any websites that discuss it or any online curriculum units?

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03-13-2003, 09:33 AM	#2
Jimmy Higgins Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Proud Citizen of Freedonia Posts: 42,473	Actually I just saw a skit on SNL on Comedy Central with those stupid cheerleaders. They said "Sex can wait, masterbate!" Its probably the same thing, except the masterbation thing as well, seeing that is a sin too. :banghead:

03-13-2003, 09:34 AM	#3
wildernesse Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,578	Here is a link to Human Rights Watch's Report on Abstinence-Only Education in the US. link They feel that federally-funded abstinence-only education programs can potentially harm youth because of the lack of information given about HIV/AIDS. Many federally-funded programs are not required and do not teach HIV/AIDS prevention. "Don't Do It." is supposed to suffice. --tibac

03-13-2003, 09:38 AM	#4
Monkeybot Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: North Carolina Posts: 8,102	coldshowercoldshowercoldshowercoldshowercoldshower coldshower

03-13-2003, 10:01 AM	#5
Solsticin Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Grand Prairie, Texas Posts: 435	Great subject line hehehhe. Masturbation is the topic I guess. Strictly speaking I have no problem with "teaching" it (can you teach how NOT to do something?? WTF?), but they should explain sex in general and the perils inherent, and that it is NORMAL AND NATURAL. Damn, you'd think sex was a BAD thing listening to these people. Leave the Abstinence education to preists that have to be around children dammit. They can't seem to figure that out on their own! THEY NEED THE EDUCATION!

03-13-2003, 11:13 AM	#7
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	They teach that life begins at conception, so abortion is murder and also is linked to breast cancer, that birth control is unreliable, that condoms do not prevent the transmisison of the HIV virus, and other mythology propounded by the religious right. I think they also promote "secondary virginity" for those who have fallen but promise to reform. They probably don't tell the kids that Abstinence Only leads to increases in abortion There is a description of one program in this thread that you might find amusing in a twisted sort of way: Abstinence Only Rears Its Ugly Head Again

03-13-2003, 11:15 AM	#8
Daggah Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Deployed to Kosovo Posts: 4,314	Jesus Christ, are you sure that's the curriculum? You might've gotten it confused with the list of positive effects of abstinence-only sex ed.

03-13-2003, 12:47 PM	#9
blame_the_gods Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 775	Abstinence is a Social Disease or, possibly, the Greatest Perversion of All... <Thanks for the thread, I got a chance to flaunt my current home-made bumper snicker> -and to our Monkeybotted Sex-goddesses: There is NO shower cold enough when I dream of your supple cerebral hemispheres - I've tried, and tried, and tr.

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