Corona688

Actually, you missed my point entirely. You're telling people to think for themselves, then giving them instructions on how to do it. And referencing the bible doing it, no less, the book that's served as a model of opression of thought for centuries. Yes, I call that irony. The bible has no special meaning. It's just a book. Get over it.

Why not stop using bizzare mixed metaphors, and say what you mean? Don't you want people to understand you? Or are you simply revelling in your ability to confuse people with hogwash?

Light

Make the switch from the OT to the NT. The Bible is trying to FREE you, it is the CHURCH that is enslaving you. Papa Manyana has you all by the balls. Christ came to FREE you but as soon as the Church of the day, led by King Herod, Pontius Pilate and the ROMAN soldiers, discovered that He was The Saviour they set about killing all the first born to make sure that they got rid of Him so that they could pick off everything He had and make a mockery of Him. Fleecing Him as they are fleecing YOU. This is the same church as the Catholic church of today.

Christ came to demonstrate that YOU can be like God if YOU want to be. You do NOT owe the church anything. You do NOT have to do ANYTHING that any church says for you to do, nor ANY holy man anywhere, they are ALL parasites living off you. You HAVE to think for YOURSELF and do as GOD asks you to.

You should ask yourself, "What should I do?" Not to follow the church like sheep in a flock for ritual fleecing by money-grubbing priests and "hol(e)y men".

The Bible is NOT the work of priests and their like, it is the Word of God.

I do not attend churches because of their hypocrisy. Christ Himself threw them ALL out of the Temple. Why should ANY church TELL YOU to have lots of children when neither you nor GLOBAL society, ALL of whom share the SAME planet can afford them?

Each sectarian grouping unwittingly tries to out-breed the other instead of working TOGETHER. It is BECAUSE of THIS that people are fighting over the same thing.

Why should ANYONE be fighting over two holes in the "Holy Land"? It is not only pathetic, it is OBSCENE.

Even now the Israelis want to have a predominance of "their people" over and above Palestinians. Just WHAT is the point of this? They are dealing in predominant "religions" which is a COMPLETELY absurd notion as ALL people SHARE the SAME belief in the SAME God.

What is driving this? Answer: GREED.

Now read the Bible again. What will bring about the end of the world? Greed.

Do you not think the world to be over-developed? Have people not in FACT paved Paradise just to make money? What was wrong with the world say, 300 years ago?

What are Indian "holy people" doing for the people of India?

What are African "holy people" doing for the people of Africa?

What is global government doing for the poor of the planet except allowing them to breed like rabbits?

What are the poor doing for themselves except breeding like rabbits?

Why is ANY church encouraging people to breed like there is no tomorrow? (Because of a predicted Mars collision? Hogwash.)

Why is it widely acknowledged that more intelligent people, with an eye to the future of the planet and its resources have fewer if no children? Which church then is more intelligent than others?

How has the population increased from 2�0 billion to 6.0 billion in only 58 years when it took hundreds of years to increase from 1�0 billion to 2�0 billion?

Who is controlling anything?

What does the Pope do?

Why all the porno?

Why all the brothels?

What does the catholic church mean by "Poor man's holiness."

Just who is this imbecile?

Corona688

Free me from what? I am not enslaved. It is not. I am not a part of it. The thing is, I'm not Catholic. In fact, I'm not Christian at all. None of this even relevant to anyone who doesn't already agree with you. Time to change your tack. Correct, I do not owe the church anything. I did not need Jesus to tell me this. In fact, I do not see how Jesus is relevant to this discussion at all. You are preaching to people who are not convinced of this, like me. This is the point on which all your preaching falls flat. As far as we're concerned, the bible is just another book, and not a real authority on anything. Care to tone down that 'all' a bit? It's unclear who this 'all' is you're referring to, and I don't believe in the same god as you. In fact I don't feel the need to believe in any, at all. Besides the plagues, massacres, famines, invasions, empires, opression and all that, you mean? Everyone thinks the 'good ol days' are better, because they didn't live in them. Do we even HAVE a global government?It's called exponential growth. It's something that living things do. CAN it be controlled? That's an argument in itself.

Weltall

Clearly someone's not up on his Freud appreciation. Now why don't we sit down and talk about your problems...

Light

Now Freud is God?

Weltall

No, but your unhealthy obession with holes is very Freudian. Presumably this has something to do with an Oedipal Complex. Now how about we discuss this...

Light

Thank you. Your responses are helping those others who read this thread. Interesting stuff all this about Christ isn't it, especially to a Buddhist.

So where do the self-styled "Catholic church authorities" fit into all of this?

Answer: They don't. They have NO say in the running of ANY State organisation anywhere. Nor should they be allowed any say in the management of people, their education, or the resources of this planet.

This is for RE-Legion and NOT religion.

Consequently the twin holes of the holy land are totally irrelevant to religious belief as is the church itself.

The church is an abuser of people and a malevolent evil. Not usually so with Protestant & Orthodox belief, P & O.

So forget about the little jinn fire pixie flying over to Kazakhstan as it was I who suggested that the Caspian and Aral seas should be flooded to promote agriculture and fisheries, several years before he even thought about it.

The Catholic church is the one which has irresponsibly, produced THE MOST CRIME and THE MOST POVERTY coupled with THE MOST SUFFERING of any church "organisation" (I jest) in the entire history of mankind.

Again Matthew will say that priests and rabbis are TOTALLY unnecessary in coming to an understanding of God and spend ALL of their time misleading people with the tempations of the DEVIL and satanic practises.

This "Joker" is making fools of all of you.

A Military/RE-Legion is quite a DIFFERENT Matter compared to "Religious" Civilians. And NOW for something completely different.

Your hinting at an Oedipus complex gives a good indication of your true character.

Might be something to do with a hole, I suppose.

andy_d

Both are equally important concepts to the atheists that make up the vast majority of this forum.

Speaking for myself, i'd actually rate bunnies slightly higher than god on my list of "good stuff". They're not only cute, they're delicious!

Light

Is that atheists who do not believe in God, or Alpha Theists (A-Theists) that DO believe in God?

See: "I am The Alpha and Omega."

Have you ever considered that there may be A-Theists who DO believe in God but who have set out to fool you by saying that they don't?

i.e. YOU don't have to believe in God, (because we really do) just we are not going to tell you that we do.

If you believe US then more fool you, as we will then take your place.

Weltall