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JerryM · 10-16-2002, 08:52 AM

This might be more appropriate for the Science and Skepticism forum, but it relates to the earlier thread about NDE's providing evidence for a soul or spirit. This is a link to a very recent report in Nature which shows that out-of-body perceptions, which are frequently part of NDE's can be produced by stimulating part of the cerebral cortex, specifically the right angular gyrus. I think it's certain that all these phenomena are the result of altered brain physiology and need no supernatural explanation. <a href="http://www.nature.com/nsu/020916/020916-8.html" target="_blank">http://www.nature.com/nsu/020916/020916-8.html</a>

Keith Russell · 10-16-2002, 08:57 AM

Jerry:

Just an honest question.

Can you honesstly think of one event that does 'need a supernatural explanation'?

I can't, but...

Keith.

Mageth · 10-16-2002, 09:01 AM

Can you honesstly think of one event that does 'need a supernatural explanation'?

Cher?

JerryM · 10-16-2002, 09:56 AM

Can you honesstly think of one event that does 'need a supernatural explanation'?

You are absolutely correct. Poor phraseology on my part. But... Michael Jackson also comes to mind...

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Ab_Normal · 10-16-2002, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by Mageth:
<strong>Can you honesstly think of one event that does 'need a supernatural explanation'?

Cher?</strong>

Naah, I can come up with naturalistic explanations for Cher herself. But I might have to invoke the supernatural to explain her continued career...

Jobar · 10-16-2002, 03:15 PM

JerryM, I moved that topic to the Non-Abrahamic Religions forum. Would you like me to do the same with this, or put it in Science&Skepticism, where I would say it more properly belongs? I'll wait for your response.

JerryM · 10-16-2002, 07:26 PM

I also think it should go to Science and Skepticism.

10-16-2002, 08:52 AM	#1
JerryM Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 1,100	Re: out of body experiences This might be more appropriate for the Science and Skepticism forum, but it relates to the earlier thread about NDE's providing evidence for a soul or spirit. This is a link to a very recent report in Nature which shows that out-of-body perceptions, which are frequently part of NDE's can be produced by stimulating part of the cerebral cortex, specifically the right angular gyrus. I think it's certain that all these phenomena are the result of altered brain physiology and need no supernatural explanation. <a href="http://www.nature.com/nsu/020916/020916-8.html" target="_blank">http://www.nature.com/nsu/020916/020916-8.html</a>

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10-16-2002, 08:57 AM	#2
Keith Russell Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Overland Park, Kansas Posts: 1,336	Jerry: Just an honest question. Can you honesstly think of one event that does 'need a supernatural explanation'? I can't, but... Keith.

10-16-2002, 09:01 AM	#3
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Can you honesstly think of one event that does 'need a supernatural explanation'? Cher?

10-16-2002, 09:56 AM	#4
JerryM Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 1,100	Can you honesstly think of one event that does 'need a supernatural explanation'? You are absolutely correct. Poor phraseology on my part. But... Michael Jackson also comes to mind... [ October 16, 2002: Message edited by: JerryM ]</p>

10-16-2002, 03:15 PM	#6
Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	JerryM, I moved that topic to the Non-Abrahamic Religions forum. Would you like me to do the same with this, or put it in Science&Skepticism, where I would say it more properly belongs? I'll wait for your response.

10-16-2002, 07:26 PM	#7
JerryM Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 1,100	I also think it should go to Science and Skepticism.

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