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Old 07-10-2003, 03:57 PM   #61
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What Will The Spirit/Soul Do In/For Eternity ?

Our life on earth is to prepare us and to give us examples of the hereafter. Everything is progressive and accumulative. We are here to accumulate experiences of feelings, the beauty of every organism that surrounds us, the landscape that adds to our perception; then we can begin our next journey.

We should live our life to its fullest. One hundred years from now, almost every single person alive today will have died. Several billion people, wiped off the face of this earth. Our life is but a blip on the radar screen of time.

We are the most important person responsible for whether our soul will live or die. Here we have to learn how to intertwine with a community; there we can experience anything that the imagination can perceive.

Envision yourself as a spirit that is uninhibited by any resistance or external influences; you can travel to any star or planet instantly, explore the beauty of the universe, and still be in sync with the Supreme Spirit, what mankind calls God.

As an example: Imagine the most advanced form of Virtual Reality that can access a super-computer and place you in whichever setting you desire; you can play with the animals, be with your loved ones, listen to the greatest opera, stage or musical performances, or simply relax next to a bubbling brook and enjoy the scenery. You feel no pain, despair, heartache, or negative emotions.

God is like a Master Planner who/that guides the universe rather than one who controls it. God is not this mighty ruler who wishes to enslave mankind, but a peaceful coexistence of the spirits or souls of many of our forefathers, past prophets, and all who lived righteously;

Cultures change with time. God has always been the same, but our perception of God will vary with time.

Is there knowledge or factual existence of God?

Knowledge encompasses cognizance which is perceptiveness, which is being able to distinguish. There is no factual evidence of the existence of God in the physical sense because man is incapable of making a physical connection with God due to God existing in a spiritual existence. Our spirit is able to perceive, distinguish and at times connect with the spirit of God.

Our spirit is spirit and is neither holy* (sacred, consecrated, divine, a religious devotion to the service of God) nor heaven sent. Every person is born with a spirit. A child’s spirit is a part of the mother's spirit which is passed down to the fetus and is then separated from its host at birth. It remains partially spiritually connected to the past host until it is capable of receiving its own data by the development of the child's reasoning capabilities at about 18 months from its birth. At that time the spirit separates from the mother and the child develops it's own spirit.

The spirit or soul exists in the collective mental processes of the subconscious the subconscious part of the mind and is also where the mental processes of creativity originate. The conscience adds to and stores life experiences into the subconscious of the mind which is the spirit or soul. If the conscience is anesthetized by other than righteous conduct the existence of the spirit gradually fades and is eventually extinguished.

The spirit is in the subconscious and often controls what one writes and thinks. The soul and spirit are often considered identical, though the soul has also been referred to as the vessel for the spirit. The only physical effect that we can derive from the Spirit of God is by way of us receiving inspirations and blessings. In order to accomplish this, lines of communication through righteous living, need to be established between our spirit and the Spirit of God during our lifetime in order for our soul to survive after our physical demise. Any soul or spirit, upon a person's physical death, that does not bond or is not transmitted by us and received by the Supreme Spirit ceases to exist.

Existence is reality. When physical existence ceases, conclusions are often surmised that all existence ceases and spirituality is sometimes perceived to be an illusion in the physical dimension. The Ultimate Reality is spiritual and is often an illusion to the physical reality. Parapsychology and psychokinesis have at times shown the spiritual affects on the physical existence.

My own spiritual experiences have relayed to the mind that what man has called God is a spiritual existence or a unity of the souls or spirits of deceased righteous people.

It really makes no difference to the survival of your spirit or soul, what you decide to believe or believe in or whether you believe in the existence of the spirit or soul. Righteous living will insure its continuity.

Knowledge can be defined as familiarity, understanding; something that is known; wisdom; learning ,education; or awareness, cognizance. Our spirit is the only one capable having cognizance or an awareness of God and receiving inspiration, blessings and establishing lines of communication with the Supreme Spirit.

Belief is opinion or creed which is a confession of religious faith. The spirit can have a knowledge of God; the conscious mind believes in a spiritual existence called God.


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Old 07-10-2003, 06:18 PM   #63
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Kurt -

Please stop repeating the same doctrine in multiple threads regardless of topic. Judging from the name of your particular brand of mysticism, I imagine you think it applies evenly to all things in heaven and earth, but this Horatio does not. Kindly address the posts in this thread on the specific matter of whether you could worship a god who contravened your moral standards.

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Could you worship a god that your conscience told you not to?

I may be able to change what is accepted as "Christianity" to something I find more palatable such as Gnostic Christianity.
OT God=Evil NT God=Good
I may be able to work with this.

Deism also has potential.

But no, I couldn't worship a god that my conscience told me not to.
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Kurt -

Kindly address the posts in this thread on the specific matter of whether you could worship a god who contravened your moral standards.

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In my above post I stated that God does not require worship...has never meddled in anything in the universe...God has never and will never set our moral standards....our own subconscious righteous living standards will determine the continuity of our soul.

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