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Old 08-11-2004, 10:22 PM   #111
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Old 08-12-2004, 03:44 AM   #112
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Sorry, Buffman. I have only limited amounts of time for Internet access, so unless it's a very special circumstance, I don't go to outside URLs for any reason. I will not, therefore, be reading your sites you linked.

I think dislike of pain can easily explain things like wanting not to burn to death. Don't you? I'm a primo example. I hate pain. I don't like experiencing it. I work to minimize pain in my life in general.

Of course beings that are alive wish to continue being alive. I just don't believe that it's primarily based on fear of death.
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Sorry, Buffman. I have only limited amounts of time for Internet access, so unless it's a very special circumstance, I don't go to outside URLs for any reason. I will not, therefore, be reading your sites you linked.
Thanks for the "heads up." Unfortunately that does cramp my style since I go to quite some lengths to provide additional documentation for the positions I profess. It also helps to provide a common basis of information for discussion.

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I think dislike of pain can easily explain things like wanting not to burn to death. Don't you? I'm a primo example. I hate pain. I don't like experiencing it. I work to minimize pain in my life in general.
Naturally I agree about not desiring pain. However, that doesn't get to the meat of the issue. Pain is simply the body's messanger boy/girl to the master controller located in the brain. (Our mind.) What my URLs would help to reveal is how that master controller is formed and why it functions in some of the manners that it does....while often being totally unaware of the real cause of why it functions as it does.

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Of course beings that are alive wish to continue being alive. I just don't believe that it's primarily based on fear of death.
Sorry, but I believe that that merely elaborates the superficial obvious. Thanks for the discussion.
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Old 08-12-2004, 09:04 AM   #114
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'Whats your problem with religion?'

Edit: This means in general terms - not a specific religion.

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Old 08-12-2004, 06:47 PM   #115
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'Whats your problem with religion?'

Edit: This means in general terms - not a specific religion.

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Which religion are you talking about?


Better answer:

My problem with a religion is directly proportional to the frequency in which it's believers bother me about it.

I don't have a problem with Buddhism because I've never been accosted by a Buddhist, and there are no Buddhists in my government that I am aware of that are crapping on my constitution and stifling scientific and cultural progress.

In the larger sense, I would think the general atheists' problem with religion is that it expects things that they (and by that I mean we) are not willing to do. I am not willing to believe in something that I do not know to be true, and in fact have a great deal of reason to believe is NOT true. I am not willing to ignore evidence. I am not willing to live my life in ignorance. That is what most religions expect, a life of ignorance.
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who begat God?
people did
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'Whats your problem with religion?'
religion stops the thinking mind :down:
its keeping people stupid.

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Please play nice. If you have something to say, please say it without inflammatory language. It does nothing to add to the discussion, and tends to derail threads.

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religion stops the thinking mind :down:
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No. I meant something that applies to ALL religions, not just some. Since you seem to have a problem with all of them. I want to know the universal aspect of religion that makes you feel the need to dislike it.

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Old 08-14-2004, 08:40 AM   #120
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No. I meant something that applies to ALL religions, not just some. Since you seem to have a problem with all of them. I want to know the universal aspect of religion that makes you feel the need to dislike it.

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No really. Is there something universally bad about all religions or do we all just get tarred with the same brush?
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