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katerina · 04-24-2002, 06:34 AM

Joe

Whoa! Talk about over-analyzing. I thought that I had the corner on the market for that.

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I want to reread my post now that it is a day later but I can't access the forum. The site doesn't work for me. Anyone else having the same problems or have I been banned?

Site was having problems yesterday when I was trying to access it. By the way, I am 'Spurious' over there, unless I re-register.

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by "harsh in tone" if you mean concise and cutting then I think you are correct. The post was supposed to cut. It was a correction of redguard333's clear bad behavior.

This was what I was referring to.

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By harsh I take it you mean I was too severe? Is that what you mean?

Not too severe or I would have said too severe. Severe.

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If not please clarify by picking one from the list below:

ROTFL!!!!

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(1) I can understand his frustration and (2) I know the fundamentalist mindset but I also understand its hard not to flame in return when a person is telling you something extremely unbelievable (e.g. the moon does not exist or the universe and earth are 6,000 y) and gets angry and starts name-calling when you don't believe them.

Yep.

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Katerina said
If you had not identified yourself as a non-believer, you would not have been accused of 'talking down' to him.

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to which Jo repliedThat is not very fair. Are moderators supposed to officiate with fairness or is bias against non-baptists allowed by default over there? I honestly don't remember claiming to be a non-believer there. Wasn't my post pretty neutral? Hopefully I will be able to access it again soon to reread it. Unless by "non-believer" you mean non-baptist or non-fundamentalist? If so I think comments in my post would certianly rule those out. Of course the "your God" part can be construed as a denial of the Christian God redguard333 believes in.

It was the 'your God' part.

Christianforums is pretty much a fundie board with a strong liberal Christian contingent whose focus is on cultivating interfaith dialogue (where Catholics and Protestants may or may not have different faiths). I don't think it's really equipped to handle Christian-agnostic-atheist-other faith issues. And no, it is not a place I would go seeking believers holding higher degrees...

katerina · 04-24-2002, 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by pangloss:


Wow. I am so flattered that the Gynne Joynte's own KATERINA allowed me to get under her skin!

My, um... 'insult' was premised on your outstanding performance on the Gynne Joynte board.

Post worthless crap, get pegged as a worthless crap poster. Go to another forum, your first post being worthless crap, see what you get.

But I am so, so terribly sorry that you took offense.

Poor baby...

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And I am personally flattered that you hold the bar in such high esteem.

Your observations duly noted, including the grain of truth in them.

So how did you like Wayne State? Cold enough for you up yonder?

Late_Cretaceous · 04-24-2002, 07:25 AM

Now Lambslove is accusing scientists of widespread dishonesty. He claims to have worked as a research scientist, and to have seen cases of academic cheating. I doubt that any researcher could get away with making up data for very long.

<a href="http://www.christianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=9fccb8a89640d5fd222f9119d34b5904& threadid=11652" target="_blank">http://www.christianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=9fccb8a89640d5fd222f9119d34b5904& threadid=11652</a>

Gooch's dad · 04-24-2002, 07:33 AM

Yeah, LC, I'm biting my tongue to keep from flaming that Lambslove into a roast!

As I expected, none of them have a coherent response to my question about the 'evil conspiracy' of evolutionary biology.

I rather doubt that any of them realized that SMU and Baylor (and many other Xtian colleges) teach evolution as sound science.

Joe Nobody · 04-24-2002, 10:23 AM

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It is still running, Joe. You might have been banned.

That is utterly ridiculous if I was banned. I did NOTHING wrong. I deserve the common courtesy to at least know why if this is the case.

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Site was having problems yesterday when I was trying to access it. By the way, I am 'Spurious' over there, unless I re-register.

Well, it must still be having problems for me today then. I don't know. Can I be banned from even viewing the pages? If I delete all my cookies wouldn't I be able to read the stuff at least still? Tried that and it didn't work. Maybe I am not banned, maybe I am.

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Whoa! Talk about over-analyzing. I thought that I had the corner on the market for that.

Nah, I got it cornered. Joe, often enough likes to respond to each and every point brought up

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This was what I was referring to.

So what was the problem with that? How high is biblical literacy in the Christian camp? What I did was clearly a Biblical principle. I could dig up some proverbs as well: "The wise man accepts a rebuke..."

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Not too severe or I would have said too severe. Severe.

That is a very thin and dare I say, subjective line

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ROTFL!!!!

What? Joe likes to use dictionaries

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I don't think it's really equipped to handle Christian-agnostic-atheist-other faith issues.

Jesus is the one who said to love with you heart, soul and with your MIND! Another case of what did he know or would that be an inaccurate and premature judgement?

Joe Nobody

pangloss · 04-24-2002, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by katerina:


And I am personally flattered that you hold the bar in such high esteem.

Your observations duly noted, including the grain of truth in them.

So how did you like Wayne State? Cold enough for you up yonder?

It was OK. Didn't like the wind. Almost did a post-doc at UM.

Gooch's dad · 04-24-2002, 12:41 PM

Oh, man. I should have known better than to ask a rhetorical question of the fundies on christianforums. Now '2infinity' is seriously comparing evolution to the 'tenents[sic] of Satanism'.

So they blow through my OP which shows that evolution IS taught at conservative Christian colleges such as SMU and Baylor...and equates evolution with satanism.

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RufusAtticus · 04-24-2002, 01:50 PM

Is it me, or does Lambslove's picture look quite satanic?

Kevin Dorner · 04-24-2002, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by lpetrich:
For example, lightning does not damage or destroy as many buildings as it used to, thanx to that heathen Benjamin Franklin, who invented the lightning rod as a result of his static-electricity researches and his famous kite experiment, and not by reading the Bible

Churchmen actually complained loudly about Franklin at the time, in sermons and so forth. They claimed that lightning was the "wrath of God" and to dissuade it in any way was unholy.

(Did they themselves carry vertical metal poles up hills in thunderstorms, I wonder...)

TollHouse · 04-24-2002, 06:59 PM

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Churchmen actually complained loudly about Franklin at the time, in sermons and so forth. They claimed that lightning was the "wrath of God" and to dissuade it in any way was unholy.

My first thought was, "You've got to be shitting me", but then again the stupidity of some theists has no bounds...

Do you have a link that provides proof for this? I'd love to bring it up next time I'm debating with a stupid Creationist.

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04-24-2002, 07:25 AM	#33
Late_Cretaceous Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Alberta Posts: 1,049	Now Lambslove is accusing scientists of widespread dishonesty. He claims to have worked as a research scientist, and to have seen cases of academic cheating. I doubt that any researcher could get away with making up data for very long. <a href="http://www.christianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=9fccb8a89640d5fd222f9119d34b5904& threadid=11652" target="_blank">http://www.christianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=9fccb8a89640d5fd222f9119d34b5904& threadid=11652</a>

04-24-2002, 07:33 AM	#34
Gooch's dad Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Madison WI USA Posts: 3,508	Yeah, LC, I'm biting my tongue to keep from flaming that Lambslove into a roast! As I expected, none of them have a coherent response to my question about the 'evil conspiracy' of evolutionary biology. I rather doubt that any of them realized that SMU and Baylor (and many other Xtian colleges) teach evolution as sound science.

04-24-2002, 12:41 PM	#37
Gooch's dad Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Madison WI USA Posts: 3,508	Oh, man. I should have known better than to ask a rhetorical question of the fundies on christianforums. Now '2infinity' is seriously comparing evolution to the 'tenents[sic] of Satanism'. So they blow through my OP which shows that evolution IS taught at conservative Christian colleges such as SMU and Baylor...and equates evolution with satanism. <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" /> <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" /> <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" />

04-24-2002, 01:50 PM	#38
RufusAtticus Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NCSU Posts: 5,853	Is it me, or does Lambslove's picture look quite satanic?

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