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Demosthenes · 04-17-2003, 08:43 AM

congratulations! You have been flamed! You're now officially part of the Internet Veterans club.

pz · 04-17-2003, 09:07 AM

Oh, piffle. That barely nudged the needle on my flame-o-meter.

I once criticized astrology strongly on usenet, and pointed out that you had to be really, really stupid to believe in it. That was a flame.

In reply, I got

accused of being a bigot who wanted to burn astrologers in ovens
threatened to have my jaw broken
detailed descriptions of all the things they were going to do while raping my wife
plans to 'rescue' my children by kidnapping them...apparently, after taking them to disneyland, my daughter was going to be employed in the porn industry
my phone number posted, with the suggestion that 2AM was a good time to call me (we did get a few breathers, for about a week)
my home address posted, with the pseudo-legalistic claim that since I used "fighting words", anyone could justifiably drive over and beat me up
e-mail sent to my employer, claiming that I was having sex with my male students
the suggestion that I should be shot in the head while driving home, and everyone would think it was just a routine carjacking

Now that is flaming.

The only people I've found worse than astrologers for raw irrational hatred and ridiculous threats are holocaust deniers. I think it's a symptom of detachment from reality, which is a prerequisite for both.

B34RZ0R · 04-17-2003, 02:50 PM

WOW PZ that wasnt a flame that was a stalker!

Straight Hate · 04-17-2003, 03:08 PM

Bear, it seems to me your words hit home and struck some deep-seated insecurity. If you were to capitalize on that fact, there is a possibility you could have many hours of enjoyment.

Thanatoast · 04-17-2003, 05:41 PM

Holy Freakin' Fuck, pz!

Did you take any legal actions against these miscreant loons?

My impression of astrologers would seem to conflict with your assessment. I always viewed them as peaceful new-age hippie types - decietful and silly, but hardly threatening.

pz · 04-17-2003, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Thanatoast
Holy Freakin' Fuck, pz!

Did you take any legal actions against these miscreant loons?

No. It was primarily one guy, and as you can guess, he was thoroughly deranged. He was also just a raving loudmouth.

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My impression of astrologers would seem to conflict with your assessment. I always viewed them as peaceful new-age hippie types - decietful and silly, but hardly threatening.

Do you challenge their conceits? These people were totally wedded to their delusions.

livius drusus · 04-17-2003, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by pz
]my phone number posted, with the suggestion that 2AM was a good time to call me (we did get a few breathers, for about a week)

No wonder I kept getting busy signals. Fucking astrologers.

pz · 04-17-2003, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by livius drusus
No wonder I kept getting busy signals. Fucking astrologers.

That was you panting at my wife?

Thanatoast · 04-18-2003, 12:16 PM

pz asked:

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Do you challenge their conceits?

Well, most of the time I tell them that I don't buy it, and leave it at that.

04-17-2003, 09:07 AM	#12
pz Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Morris, MN Posts: 3,341	Oh, piffle. That barely nudged the needle on my flame-o-meter. I once criticized astrology strongly on usenet, and pointed out that you had to be really, really stupid to believe in it. That was a flame. In reply, I got accused of being a bigot who wanted to burn astrologers in ovens threatened to have my jaw broken detailed descriptions of all the things they were going to do while raping my wife plans to 'rescue' my children by kidnapping them...apparently, after taking them to disneyland, my daughter was going to be employed in the porn industry my phone number posted, with the suggestion that 2AM was a good time to call me (we did get a few breathers, for about a week) my home address posted, with the pseudo-legalistic claim that since I used "fighting words", anyone could justifiably drive over and beat me up e-mail sent to my employer, claiming that I was having sex with my male students the suggestion that I should be shot in the head while driving home, and everyone would think it was just a routine carjacking Now that is flaming. The only people I've found worse than astrologers for raw irrational hatred and ridiculous threats are holocaust deniers. I think it's a symptom of detachment from reality, which is a prerequisite for both.

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04-17-2003, 08:43 AM	#11
Demosthenes Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: a speck of dirt Posts: 2,510	congratulations! You have been flamed! You're now officially part of the Internet Veterans club.

04-17-2003, 02:50 PM	#13
B34RZ0R Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lost in the Ether, Minnesota Posts: 1,436	WOW PZ that wasnt a flame that was a stalker!

04-17-2003, 03:08 PM	#14
Straight Hate Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 4,171	Bear, it seems to me your words hit home and struck some deep-seated insecurity. If you were to capitalize on that fact, there is a possibility you could have many hours of enjoyment.

04-17-2003, 05:41 PM	#15
Thanatoast Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 3,966	Holy Freakin' Fuck, pz! Did you take any legal actions against these miscreant loons? My impression of astrologers would seem to conflict with your assessment. I always viewed them as peaceful new-age hippie types - decietful and silly, but hardly threatening.

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