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thumper · 08-09-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by IsItJustMe

I mean we declare ourselves the sovereign nation of Justmea, and start doing all the things a sovereign nation does: Issuing money, constructing an army, enforcing the laws we make with jails and fines, sending an ambassador to Washington and inviting them to send one to my spare bedroom, etc.

how what one does in Justmea in anyway effect thumper?

thumper · 08-09-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by whichphilosophy

It's a vague question. First there has to be a decision of the people to join the group and it's self determinsm should not inhibit or suppress other groups. In a democratic society this is freedom with responsiblility

Any true groups will contain individuals with different viewpoints but they will have a common goal. Groups vary between very individualistic peoples and followers of the herd.

It's not a vague question. Are you for absolute individual freedom, or are you a collectivist?

IsItJustMe · 08-09-2005, 09:08 PM

Thumper, I think it's very rude of you to start a thread and then offer nothing of content to it. What is your view? Of course we know you would like to see a "white nation," but in what circumstances can a group of people secede? What are the rules?

thumper · 08-09-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by IsItJustMe

Thumper, I think it's very rude of you to start a thread and then offer nothing of content to it. What is your view? Of course we know you would like to see a "white nation," but in what circumstances can a group of people secede? What are the rules?

I really don't see it as seccession :huh:

It's basically the full recognition of private property rights, and freedom of association.

IsItJustMe · 08-09-2005, 09:10 PM

Thumper... I thought you stormfront people were supposed to be the vanguard of the greatest race... If you are, then understanding the question I asked really shouldn't be as hard as all that. What, if anything, are the rules on setting up your own country?

TollHouse · 08-09-2005, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by thumper

It's basically the full recognition of private property rights, and freedom of association.

What if a black man wants to live within your "association"?

thumper · 08-09-2005, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TollHouse

What if a black man wants to live within your "association"?

depends on the seller

IsItJustMe · 08-09-2005, 11:28 PM

Thumper, to paraphrase Plato, the unexamined political philosophy is not worth fighting for. It is evident to me that you have never really given deep consideration to your political beliefs. Why don't you set out what you believe carefully and fully and discuss it with some intelligent people who can either:

1. Show you where you have gone wrong or

2. Help you build the courage of your convictions by defending them against intelligent arguments.

I promise not to be mean if you will just start putting some content in your posts and participating in these debates in a reasonable manner.

thumper · 08-09-2005, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by IsItJustMe

Thumper, to paraphrase Plato, the unexamined political philosophy is not worth fighting for. It is evident to me that you have never really given deep consideration to your political beliefs. Why don't you set out what you believe carefully and fully and discuss it with some intelligent people who can either:

1. Show you where you have gone wrong or

2. Help you build the courage of your convictions by defending them against intelligent arguments.

I promise not to be mean if you will just start putting some content in your posts and participating in these debates in a reasonable manner.

I think any and every group should have the right to self determination

IsItJustMe · 08-09-2005, 11:45 PM

Without exception? I mean, again, can I declare my house to be a sovereign nation? What if I do so at the time that the police are at the door, about to bust it down looking for crack? Can I then declare that they are an invading army and must leave my house?

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08-09-2005, 09:08 PM	#13
IsItJustMe Veteran Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Next smoke-filled cellar over from Preno. Posts: 6,562	Thumper, I think it's very rude of you to start a thread and then offer nothing of content to it. What is your view? Of course we know you would like to see a "white nation," but in what circumstances can a group of people secede? What are the rules?

08-09-2005, 09:10 PM	#15
IsItJustMe Veteran Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Next smoke-filled cellar over from Preno. Posts: 6,562	Thumper... I thought you stormfront people were supposed to be the vanguard of the greatest race... If you are, then understanding the question I asked really shouldn't be as hard as all that. What, if anything, are the rules on setting up your own country?

08-09-2005, 11:28 PM	#18
IsItJustMe Veteran Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Next smoke-filled cellar over from Preno. Posts: 6,562	Thumper, to paraphrase Plato, the unexamined political philosophy is not worth fighting for. It is evident to me that you have never really given deep consideration to your political beliefs. Why don't you set out what you believe carefully and fully and discuss it with some intelligent people who can either: 1. Show you where you have gone wrong or 2. Help you build the courage of your convictions by defending them against intelligent arguments. I promise not to be mean if you will just start putting some content in your posts and participating in these debates in a reasonable manner.

08-09-2005, 11:45 PM	#20
IsItJustMe Veteran Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Next smoke-filled cellar over from Preno. Posts: 6,562	Without exception? I mean, again, can I declare my house to be a sovereign nation? What if I do so at the time that the police are at the door, about to bust it down looking for crack? Can I then declare that they are an invading army and must leave my house?

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